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#21 Heckelphone

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Posted 16 May 2007 - 09:44 AM

54 note keyboards are then C-a3, and the old English long compass runs from GG.


Or even C-f3. C-a3 is 58. Sorry!

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Posted 16 May 2007 - 10:01 AM

I sense a nest of hornets or, if you prefer, a can of worms here. I would normally use the designation C4 for middle C and the designation C7 for note 61, but I realise there are a number of other descriptions in use. Does the organ industry currently have a preferred system?

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I do not know of anyone else who uses this numbering system. However, it is true that there are almost as many variations as there are spellings of the stop 'Crumhorn'.
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Posted 16 May 2007 - 10:31 AM

I do not know of anyone else who uses this numbering system. However, it is true that there are almost as many variations as there are spellings of the stop 'Crumhorn'.



Crumhorns.....pah!
Where is there a single piece of music that needs a Crumhorn?

A decent Cremona or a rich, full-blooded Cromorne perhaps..... but even then
I believe that as a species Crumhorns are (or at the very least have been) seriously over-rated.

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Posted 16 May 2007 - 10:38 AM

Crumhorns.....pah!
Where is there a single piece of music that needs a Crumhorn?

A decent Cremona or a rich, full-blooded Cromorne perhaps..... but even then
I believe that as a species Crumhorns are (or at the very least have been) seriously over-rated.


It depends on what type of sound you have in mind. Some builders (Walker, for example) seem to use the term as a general label for a full-blooded French-style stop. My own on the Positive is ideal for Couperin, etc. It is less than ideal for 'lining-out' a verse of a psalm, but I would not have it any other way.
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Posted 17 May 2007 - 07:18 AM

Or even C-f3. C-a3 is 58. Sorry!


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That's what comes of replying too early in the morning after a disturbed night - and in too ch of a hurry!

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Posted 17 May 2007 - 08:07 AM

Crumhorns.....pah!
Where is there a single piece of music that needs a Crumhorn?

A decent Cremona or a rich, full-blooded Cromorne perhaps..... but even then
I believe that as a species Crumhorns are (or at the very least have been) seriously over-rated.



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And I thought it was just me who hated the things!

All those lovely neo-classic organs, and barely a Dulzian to be heard: a much nicer "old" sound IMHO.

MM

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Posted 17 May 2007 - 08:21 AM

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And I thought it was just me who hated the things!

All those lovely neo-classic organs, and barely a Dulzian to be heard: a much nicer "old" sound IMHO.

MM


Then you will be interested (perhaps) to learn that you will hear/play a Dulcimeau in Oxford at St John's in the Autumn.

Best wishes,
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Posted 17 May 2007 - 08:26 AM

Then you will be interested (perhaps) to learn that you will hear/play a Dulcimeau in Oxford at St John's in the Autumn.



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I couldn't possibly, with a name like that.

Next thing, I expect you will be asking me to eat raw garlic, wear a beret and drive a Citroen.

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Posted 17 May 2007 - 09:04 AM

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I couldn't possibly, with a name like that.

Next thing, I expect you will be asking me to eat raw garlic, wear a beret and drive a Citroen.

MM


Non! No need to go par-dessus bord and become Clouseau mon ami.

Salut!

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Posted 17 May 2007 - 10:00 AM

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And I thought it was just me who hated the things!

All those lovely neo-classic organs, and barely a Dulzian to be heard: a much nicer "old" sound IMHO.

MM


Dulzian - ha!

I laugh at such sounds.

I suppose that if one were to enjoy the sound of a duck with bronchitis trapped in a box, then this type of stop is pleasant, but....

:wacko:
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Posted 17 May 2007 - 10:20 AM

Dulzian - ha!

I laugh at such sounds.

I suppose that if one were to enjoy the sound of a duck with bronchitis trapped in a box, then this type of stop is pleasant, but....

:wacko:


I liked my Dulzian!

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Posted 17 May 2007 - 10:36 AM

Dulzian - ha!

I laugh at such sounds.

But isn't your chamade just a Dulzian on steroids?

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Posted 17 May 2007 - 10:54 AM

But isn't your chamade just a Dulzian on steroids?


Fight! Fight! Fight!

I am tempted to put up a clip of me and pcnd's boss accompanying the Xmas Oratorio as a duet which may well bear out Vox's assertion. However, I shall not. No. I won't.

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Posted 17 May 2007 - 11:47 AM

Fight! Fight! Fight!

I am tempted to put up a clip of me and pcnd's boss accompanying the Xmas Oratorio as a duet which may well bear out Vox's assertion. However, I shall not. No. I won't.


Not while I have my strength....

Otherwise, I shall be forced to post a clip of me playing, in which it sounds regal, stunning and, well, just exciting, really....

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:)
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:wacko:
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Posted 17 May 2007 - 11:54 AM

Not while I have my strength....

Otherwise, I shall be forced to post a clip of me playing, in which it sounds regal, stunning and, well, just exciting, really....

:)
:)
:angry:
:wacko:


That sounds like a challenge if ever I heard one! I shall report back when I've got the CD's out of the car; this gives you a few short hours to muster your forces. Prepare.

(Send them to me by email or on MSN if you like and I'll host them...)

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Posted 17 May 2007 - 11:58 AM

Non! No need to go par-dessus bord and become Clouseau mon ami.

Salut!

Nigel Tous-les-manteaux (pas Joseph)


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You should smell me in a lift!

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Posted 17 May 2007 - 11:59 AM

Wow! CDs at dawn! :wacko:

...in which it sounds regal

Dulzianregal?

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Posted 17 May 2007 - 12:18 PM

Perhaps even Messing Regal - like New College?

AJJ
"…We can’t criticize the organ for being boring. In such cases it is the organist that is boring. There is no such thing as a boring organ."

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Posted 17 May 2007 - 12:20 PM

Perhaps even Messing Regal - like New College?

AJJ


That's rather what it sounded like when we were playing it.

Anyone got any chamade recordings they'd care to submit, about a minute long and as vulgar as possible? I was thinking we should have a "Guess the Chamade" contest.

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Posted 17 May 2007 - 01:32 PM

That's rather what it sounded like when we were playing it.

Anyone got any chamade recordings they'd care to submit, about a minute long and as vulgar as possible? I was thinking we should have a "Guess the Chamade" contest.



I have one, how do I upload it anywhere, though?
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