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#41 MusingMuso

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Posted 13 March 2011 - 03:08 PM

Yes how I miss the RT and Routemaster buses, not forgetting those wonderful trolleybuses, thankfully a few preserved in museums.
I am very disappointed in the new RM but at least it is much better than those awful bendy buses where you can travel for free with the blessing of TFL.
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Scanning back through the various replies, the thought occured to me that organists and organ-lovers, as a breed, may well be barking mad.....in a nice way, and always well-mannered of course. B)

Has this thought occured to anyone else?

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#42 Jim Treloar

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Posted 13 March 2011 - 03:17 PM

Barking mad?? Never, just people who enjoy the good things of life, rewarding companionship and sensible discussions.

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Posted 13 March 2011 - 03:48 PM

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Posted 13 March 2011 - 03:56 PM

Barking mad?? Never, just people who enjoy the good things of life, rewarding companionship and sensible discussions.

Thinking of organ enthusiasts and cars, I suppose Pierre would be an advocate of the early Hillman "Imp", which if my memory serves me right, had a pneumatic throttle linkage. B)

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Posted 13 March 2011 - 04:02 PM

Allegedly the organ in Bedford school chapel had a model steam engine that used to run along the top of the music desk, connected by pulley to the reservoir to indicate the amount of puff left in the organ!


This story is true. By the time I learned to play there (mid '60s) the steam enthusiast had moved on, leaving a black Kitmaster (later taken over by Airfix) locomotive and tender. He apparently took with him various other coloured engines which he had swapped around to match the liturgical colour of the day.

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Posted 13 March 2011 - 04:26 PM

James Lancelot is a well known railway enthusiast. He talked of Brunel, inevitably, when he gave the recital at St Mary Redcliffe two weeks ago. Stephen Cleobury used to give his interests in Who's Who as reading railway timetables (I don't know if it's still in there). In Roger Fisher's music room I think there's almost as many railway books as music books, and one of his CDs has a picture of him driving a loco on the Llangollen Railway (something I've done myself, on Flying Scotsman, no less).


James was referring to Isambard Kingdom Brunel (not to be confused with his dad, Mark Isambard Brunel) who married the daughter of William Horsley, one of founders of the Philhamonic Society. IKB was a suscriber to the 1855 edition of Hopkins and Rimbault and there was a Gray and Davison organ in his house! I don't think IKB played - but I like to think he got called on to fix the odd cipher.
So here's a question for you next choir quiz night "Whose father-in-law wrote the tune to 'There is a green hill far away'? " I bet they won't know.
Lots of organists are keen on trains - but lots of engineers (myself included) are organists. Am I right?

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Posted 13 March 2011 - 10:29 PM

Lots of organists are keen on trains - but lots of engineers (myself included) are organists. Am I right?


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I didn't know we had any engineers left, but with a family association with engineering and an early history which saw me become a "class skilled fitter" (whatever that is), I suppose I more or less fit the bill; though I think the organ came first and the engineering came second. It's a long time since I did any proper engineering.

Like organists and organ-builders, engineers have their own language, and there's something very clanish about knowing what an "odd leg jenny" is.

I was fascinated to learn about Brunel having a house organ; thanks for that.

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Posted 13 March 2011 - 10:33 PM

This story is true. By the time I learned to play there (mid '60s) the steam enthusiast had moved on, leaving a black Kitmaster (later taken over by Airfix) locomotive and tender. He apparently took with him various other coloured engines which he had swapped around to match the liturgical colour of the day.



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So, we're in "Duchess of Athol" season at a guess.

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#49 Tony Newnham

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Posted 14 March 2011 - 10:18 AM

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Scanning back through the various replies, the thought occured to me that organists and organ-lovers, as a breed, may well be barking mad.....in a nice way, and always well-mannered of course. B)

Has this thought occured to anyone else?

MM


Hi

I prefer "eccentric".

Tony

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Posted 14 March 2011 - 07:10 PM

My friend who was a chorister at Ripon, owns the full-size locomotive Blue Peter.

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Posted 14 March 2011 - 08:45 PM

Hi

I prefer "eccentric".

Tony


And as the eccentric is a key element of the valvegear of the majority of steam locomotives, we've gone full circle!?

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Posted 14 March 2011 - 09:20 PM

And as the eccentric is a key element of the valvegear of the majority of steam locomotives, we've gone full circle!?

CP



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I never left the groove......that's desmodromic, I think.

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#53 DouglasCorr

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Posted 19 March 2011 - 10:26 PM

On my 50th birthday I had a driver "experience" on the footplate of 34105 Swanage on the Watercress line....
Footplates are much hotter than pedal boards! :P

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Posted 05 April 2011 - 10:24 AM

I've always been a railway enthusiast although largely I've had to limit myself to 00 Gauge models. What I can do for real though is sit at my 1933 Willis console ( a rebuild from 1890) or at the wheel of my 1933 Lanchester 10 and it is just possible to feel slightly transported back in time. The Willis had the Musicom control system installed a few years ago but I remember before that the clunks and clicks the couplers made due to the 30s electrics in the console, very like the mechanical controls of the car. Of course, the accelerator is the organ pedal type and both have ebonised finishes. Now - who says organists are stuck in the past...?

#55 Nigel ALLCOAT

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Posted 05 April 2011 - 02:45 PM

Although not steam, but certain rail - here is something to make you smile. Crash on the A******* TGV This is a train in an organ builder's premises that is used for transporting wood and all manner of things about the place and also for unloading visiting lorries.
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#56 Colin Richell

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Posted 05 April 2011 - 05:18 PM

I was involved with the purchase from BR of Britannia Pacific 70000 Britannia, and she wil be out on the main line on the 7th April for the first time for many years.and I will be proud to be on the train.
I am also interested in old buses and planes (new and old).
Am I a frustrated organ enthusiast ?
Colin Richell

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Posted 05 April 2011 - 07:53 PM

lots of engineers (myself included) are organists. Am I right?


Of course.
Ian CK (CEng MIET). Not to mention John CK (ret'd)

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Posted 05 April 2011 - 08:31 PM

Regarding organs and steam trains - John Dykes Bower was one such and I remember many conversations between him, 13 year old James Lancelot and Paul Edwards on the subject before morning choir practice.



James has a name plate hanging in his hallway "Sir Lancelot", and has a massive layout in one of his rooms, or did have last time I was in there. As well as a nice 3 man H & H organ in the lounge

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Posted 05 April 2011 - 10:45 PM

I was involved with the purchase from BR of Britannia Pacific 70000 Britannia, and she wil be out on the main line on the 7th April for the first time for many years.and I will be proud to be on the train.

Colin Richell


Give me a wave when you pass through Ashford. I hope to see the return run prior to choir practice

#60 MusingMuso

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Posted 07 April 2011 - 10:42 PM

I was involved with the purchase from BR of Britannia Pacific 70000 Britannia, and she wil be out on the main line on the 7th April for the first time for many years.and I will be proud to be on the train.
I am also interested in old buses and planes (new and old).
Am I a frustrated organ enthusiast ?
Colin Richell



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The more I read, the more I am convinced that we are all barking mad. I would just express my surprise that no-one has yet come up with the obvious connection of Traction Engines and Fair Organs.

I just think it would be ideal to chuff around, dragging an organ on a trailer, stopping at pubs (real ale of course), and entertaining the locals with a quick burst of Suppe's "Poet & Peasant" and Ketelby's "In a monastery garden."

How about a small "Father" Willis on the back of a Sentinel steam-lorry?

MM




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