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#1 emsgdh

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Posted 17 December 2015 - 03:20 PM

Friends:

Sorry to be thick, esp. if this subject has already been explained, but is there a digital instrument in the chapel during the big job's restoration ?  Wondering what we are to hear for this year's L&C broadcast.

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Posted 17 December 2015 - 06:21 PM

I understand that the 9 Lessons and Carols is the last service with the organ. I don't suppose that there is a Christmas morning service at a collegiate carol although I stand to be corrected.


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Posted 17 December 2015 - 07:36 PM

I had heard that they were going to manage without a substitute, but I can't remember if the information was from a reliable source!



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Posted 17 December 2015 - 10:00 PM

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Posted 18 December 2015 - 05:58 AM

I understand that the 9 Lessons and Carols is the last service with the organ. I don't suppose that there is a Christmas morning service at a collegiate carol although I stand to be corrected.

 

 

There is, indeed, a morning Eucharist in Kings College Chapel on Christmas morning - and there always has been!

 

This year the Music includes:Mozart Missa Brevis K275 in B flat and traditional hymns/carols. The sermon is preached by the Dean and the final Voluntary is the Widor Symphonie V - not unsurprisingly - the Toccata. The service begins at 11h00.

 

 

These pages from the College website give details of the organ restoration and the timescale of that work. Hope they're helpful.

 

http://www.kings.cam...2016/index.html


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Posted 18 December 2015 - 07:53 AM

 

 

This is a major reconstruction of the King's organ, costing £1.2 million. There has been a determined effort to centre all of the Pedal upper work within the case, together with a new Pedal 8' Principal.  The website even states that an effort will be made to restore the former 'brightness' of the instrument.

 

Either way, the sum of money involved does sound a tremendous amount - let's hope the results prove its worth.

 

 

Indeed it is a lot of money. My church couldn't afford to have "my" 7 stop single manual and pedal organ tuned this year...

 

Gloucester diocese still insisted on a 17% increase to the £4000+ "contribution" paid in 2014. What a way to run a business.


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Posted 18 December 2015 - 11:33 AM

Harrison's are documenting the work in the gallery section of their website. Looks like they've already been busy for 6 months constructing all the new parts ahead of the dismantling which begins in the new year.

www.harrisonorgans.com/gallery/cambridge-kings-college

 

They are also documenting the re-pitching work at Peterborough Cathedral which involves lengthening all the pipes.



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Posted 18 December 2015 - 12:20 PM

 

 

Indeed it is a lot of money. My church couldn't afford to have "my" 7 stop single manual and pedal organ tuned this year...

 

Gloucester diocese still insisted on a 17% increase to the £4000+ "contribution" paid in 2014. What a way to run a business.

 

I could be wrong of course, but one tends to assume that King's is able to disburse the sort of money being dicussed here because they are who they are.  And many will benefit from it, of course, even if it's just hearing the new organ on TV and radio.  But in the case of handsoff's situation, I should like to think that the diocesan contribution he mentioned will be spent in a way that he and his congregation approve of.  It does seem a rather large increase in these days of 0.1% inflation.

 

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Posted 18 December 2015 - 01:02 PM

Please don't misunderstand me. I do not resent for one moment the fact that KCC can and will spend this sum on the organ and I will doubtless enjoy and applaud the results of the work along with countless others.

 

From speaking to the congregation at my church, averaging fewer than 12 souls, I do get the impression that they do not think that the diocese necessarily spend the money well. It is entirely a one-way flow with ludicrously restrictive rules on what we may and may not do in our own parish and this will force our closure within 3 or 4 years. By then the organ will have died so I shan't be involved.

 

This is not the place for such a discussion and I was wrong to vent my feelings here. We should stick to the topic and I shall refrain from further comment unless I wish to add to the discussion about the organ in KCC.


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Posted 18 December 2015 - 03:49 PM

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Posted 20 December 2015 - 09:33 PM

With respect, I think it is better to read here on the King's website about the details of the funding of the project rather than speculate on the finances of the college in relation to the organ. SL has given above a link to the college website. FAQs concerning the organ (including substitute instruments) are here.



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Posted 21 December 2015 - 04:12 AM


More money of course. But with King's I doubt whether money is a problem.

 

 

There is a misconception that institutions, such as Kings College at Cambridge, are awash with money!

 

They have to balance the books - just like anyone else!


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Posted 24 December 2015 - 07:06 PM

 

 

There is, indeed, a morning Eucharist in Kings College Chapel on Christmas morning - and there always has been!

 

This year the Music includes:Mozart Missa Brevis K275 in B flat and traditional hymns/carols. The sermon is preached by the Dean and the final Voluntary is the Widor Symphonie V - not unsurprisingly - the Toccata. The service begins at 11h00.

 

 

These pages from the College website give details of the organ restoration and the timescale of that work. Hope they're helpful.

 

http://www.kings.cam...2016/index.html

Same setting as we are having in Bristol Cathedral: 10am start with Choir + Organ + Orchestra. Usually a full house but the Bishop is preaching: the Dean is doing the midnight service tonight.

 

Merry Christmas one and all.

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Posted 25 December 2015 - 03:49 PM

Ah, the other Widor VI. The one of which the Radio Times was not aware. :D :D


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#15 Martin Cooke

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Posted 13 February 2016 - 11:32 AM

Well worth a visit to the King's Cambridge Choir's site to read the latest on the organ work, but, it's particularly worth it to listen to a couple of beautiful evensongs on their webcast list accompanied by piano. If you're short of time, listen to Stanford in G Magnificat with piano duet accompaniment. 



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Posted 13 February 2016 - 12:18 PM

Also on the site is the news that Daniel Hyde has been appointed to succeed the late John Scott at St. Thomas' New York.


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Posted 13 February 2016 - 04:03 PM

Also on the site is the news that Daniel Hyde has been appointed to succeed the late John Scott at St. Thomas' New York.

 

Indeed. Mentioned earlier on in the week here by 'Positif' in the 'Appointments' thread.



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Posted 13 February 2016 - 05:42 PM

 

Indeed. Mentioned earlier on in the week here by 'Positif' in the 'Appointments' thread.

 

 

My apologies - I hadn't seen it!


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Posted 22 July 2016 - 02:05 PM

There's a recording of Jupiter from The Planets on YouTube. According to the credits this was played as a duet by Tom Etheridge and Richard Gowers, the organ scholars, after the final evensong before the organ was dismantled. Therefore probably the last ever recording of the instrument as it was at the end of 2015. It will be interesting to compare with the upgraded version later in the year.

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=XeNgckY1NtI

 

Harrisons are continuing to post further photos of the work on their website.



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Posted 27 July 2016 - 09:58 PM

The Choir of King's College, Cambridge's Facebook page has provided the most comprehensive sequence of photographs since the end of last year. The latest shows that all the pipework has been returned and the scaffolding removed. The six-week painstaking process of voicing has begun.






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