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Tony Newnham

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  1. Hi A couple of points re. Colin Pykett's post above. 1) NPOR searches are best if you enter the minimum amount of information. I found the relevant survey very quickly just now by simply entering "King's College" in the search box, and then selecting the relevant entry from the half a dozen or so King's Colleges in the database. As to the county, NPOR locations are based on counties as they were a good few years ago - and updating would be a mammoth job!. Most if not all of London North of the Thames was in Middlesex at one time - areas South of the Thames appear under Kent - but since there's no need normally to specify a county in the search, it really makes little difference. 2) I had a similar problem to that described by Colin when recording a Wurlitzer theatre organ. I traced the problem to running mic. cables parallel and close to the main action cable between console & organ chamber ( and that was using quality balanced microphones). Rerouting the mic cables solved the problem.
  2. Hi I wonder if Mustel - the Harmonium builder who also invented the Celeste - h ad trademarked the term or something similar. Or possibly Wurlitzer didn't want any confusion between pipe Celeste stops & Celesta? Just musing - no proof of either idea! Every Blessing Tony
  3. Hi BOA has a couple of references to St John, Old Colwyn, (but from a secondary source). According to that it was built by Conacher in 1903 & rebuilt be them in c.1913. The NPOR ref is N11752, but it is a 1955 survey. Hopefully, when I'm eventually well enough to get there, Quentin will find time to show me his churches & their organs. Every Blessing Tony
  4. Hi As church organists/musicians, we are there to support the work of the church, and not simply to promote our personal likes/dislikes musically (although inevitably, likes do tend to come to the top). As Zimbelstern says, we need to remember Psalm 150, which mentions all classes of musical instruments - and you could perhaps argue all musical styles.
  5. Hi I suppose having been brought up in a free church that had a worship band of sorts in the 1950's does colour my thinking, but bssically, anything that helps people connect with & worship God is fine (As long as the theology is OK,, but that's a whole different can of worms). I've rregularly played organ in worship bands, as well ass piano/keyboards since I first played in church over 50 years ago. In my experience, finding pipe organs that are in tune with modern instrumental pitch can be difficult, but organ plus works as long as the organist doesn't try to dominate, or to do it all. Every Blessing Tony
  6. The Southfields stop list is derived from the builder's advert in "The Organ", and may well indicate what was planned rather than the final stop nomenclature of what was installed - a not uncommon problem. The only SR I've played regularly is in Burnham on-Crouch Baptist in Essex. See E00328 A mere 11 stops but surprisingly versatile - and the metal flues NEVER drifted out of tune, being cone-tuned pipework. Every Blessing Tony
  7. Thanks John - I'll pass the info on. Every Blessing Tony
  8. Hi I've been asked about insurance values for a historic 4m 35 stop pipe organ. Any ideas? Every Blessing Tony
  9. Hi Just a note - I see that someone above has mentioned Franck's "L'Organiste". These were actually written for Harmonium, and he often calls on the divided keyboard & registrations at different pitches. If you're going to play them (and many do work well on a pipe organ), you need to (1) ensure that the edition you use has they registration codes (Numbers in circles above each stave, etc.) - I've seen editions without this essential feature on the web!. Also (2) that you take on board the relevant pitches of the Harmonium stops. One example is where he alternates short passages between rank 3 (sounding an octave higher than written) on one stave, and rank 2 (16ft rank) on the other. The effect is passages that are around the same pitch, but different in tonality - not passages 3 octaves apart! Hope all goes well as your organ playing develops. Every Blessing Tony
  10. Hi I think I read a quote from Dom Bedos suggesting using a tremulant to hide out of tune reeds! If that's correct, then it's a relatively early device. Every Blessing Tony
  11. Hi I've come across a good few Conacher organs over the years, and haven't found a really bad one (aside from maintenance issues); and one of the most surprisingly versatile small organs of the era that I've played a few times is this one http://www.npor.org.uk/NPORView.html?RI=N13335 Just a handful of stops across 2 manuals - the only thing I'd prefer is a Cornopean instead of the Oboe on the Swell. Every Blessing Tony
  12. Hi I first learned & played this from the Novello edition. These days I use the Barenreiter urtext publication that I purchased a fe years back because my Novello volume (dating from the late '60's) was falling to pieces! I'm probably a bit of Philistine with the ornaments - I just play what feels right to me! Health problems and no tradition of proper voluntaries in the church I play at has meant I've got rather out of practice, but I've set myself to play through the Bach Passiontide Chorale Preludes from the Orgelbuchlein one each Sunday (except Family Services) during Lent. Not sure if I'll manage it - and the organ is not the most suitable, being a Yamaha HS8 (spinet style with a 20 note pedalboard) controlling a basic computer simulator). The first one (O Lamm Gottes Unschulfig) yesterday went quite well - pedal part played down an octave with 4ft Pedal stop plus a 4ft coupled through from the "Swell". O Mensch will probably make an appearance for the communion service the Sunday after next. It's probably the one Passiontide chorale that I know best - certainly the one I've played most! Trying to do this at least meaans that I have to practice rather more than I have been of late! Every Blessing Tony
  13. It loos pretty good in the situation - but why did the DOA want a full size mock-up, which no doubt has cost the church a fair sum. What's wrong with computer-generated images for the purpose? Just wondering. Hope you're keeping well Peter.
  14. True Colin As I think it was Dom Bedos who pointed out that the tremulant could be used to disguise out of gtune reeds. Every Blessing Tony
  15. As Colin points out, the pitch difference between an ET quint & one tuned true is very small, hance Quints, Twelfths etc. on extension organs work reasonably well. Tierce ranks are a problem - some Theatre organs have a Tierce and it's really only usable as a solo stop IMHO. One solution that I have come across - although I don't know if Compton did it this way - is to derive the Tierce from a beating rank that doubles as a Celeste. Again, it needs a compromise, as the optimum tuning for a celeste isn't the same as a true Tierce, but again, it can work acceptably well. The small Compton in South Harrow Baptist Church (NPOR E01335) dating from 1947 had, among other things, a Celeste/Tierce rank added by Keith Bance in 1997. Every Blessing Tony
  16. Hi As David said, Electrophonic Organs (the post-war firm) did advertise in "The Organ" for a short while. As Colin said, they didn't seem to last very long. I came across a 2m example of their work in Shipley Baptist Church. It was non-working, not least because the rather large speaker array had been disconnected! It went to Canon Quentintin Bellamy, but I don;t think he was able to keep it for long, and where it went after that I don't know. I've heard of another example in a house in Worthing, but aside from a mention on a web site that is no longer available, I don't know any more and never got to see it. A short-lived episode in the world of electronic organs. Shipley Baptist, like many Baptist & other free churches in the Bradford area, had demolished their large church building, which had contained a 4m pipe organ no less - it went to form the basis of the organ in Guildford Cathedral - a better fate than a Harrison, a Conacher & a Laycock & Bannister from other churches that I know about which, as far as I know, were all scrapped. Every Blessing Tony
  17. Hi NPOR Survey is 1957 - as stated on the screen. Taken from thee Organ Club Journal. Any updates welcome, as always. We will get to them in time! Every Blessing Tony
  18. Hi It's certainly a fine sounding organ, but I was glad I wasn't playing it for a special event back in the 1970's. I was there to accompany a choir from another church on piano (a decent grand IIRC). Anyway, back to the organ, the reason I was glad I wasn't at the console was the Pedal Posaune cyphered during the closing hymn - and wasn't silenced until the organist had switched off the blower & allowed the reservoir to empty - so it continued drom=ning at quite a substantial volume throughout the closing prayers etc.! As to organs in hotels, NPOR E00216 shows a Wood Wordsworth house organ that was moved from it's previous home in East Sussex (where I played it a couple of times) when they sold up and moved up North. Last I heard it had been removed. Every Blessing Tony
  19. Hi I think Colin may well be right in his suggestion that the 16ft is intended - at least in part -to counterbalance the shrillness of high pitched mixtures. The same thinking, it seems to me, applies in reed organs, where a manual 16ft is an early addition to the stop list to balance the significant harmonic development of free reeds. Every Blessing Tony
  20. Hi Simper's organ music is, I think, underated. It's not great music, but it's tuneful - and usually pretty easy to play. I have a number of the volumes of voluntarys "for organ, Harmonium or American Organ" - and they sometimes get an airing when I need something suitably vintage and (near) sight-readable. I don't recall seeing the piece you mention in them though. I'll try & have a look later today. Every Blessing Tony
  21. Hi Pleased to see that I'm not the only fan of "The Crucifixion" on here. That, & Olivet to Valvary serve a purpose. They may not be the greatest music, but there are many people out there who don't connect with "great music" (however you define that!) Such presentations help present the gospel message to many - and that's what the church is all about. Every Blessing Tony
  22. Hi There's far more to choosung church music than personal preference. Maybe it had been chosen for a very good reason. IMHO you should have checked with the person responsible for choosing the music before changing it. I repeat - personal dislike is rerally not a good enough reason for rejecting something, and nor is musical elitism. If the music helps the congregation (or a part of the congregation) to connect with God, then it's fine. Personally, I don;t have any great problem with "Shine Jesus Shine" where it fits the them of the service - and I can think of far worse songs! Every Blessing Tony
  23. Hi Colin's scond suggestion is probably the best way to go for simple stereo recordings - it's what I often do. However, the question involves multi-track recordings, building up a part at a time - and obviously, the various parts need to be in sync. Personally, I'd forget about the 1/8th inch input on the computer - audio quality usually leaves a bit to be desired. The simplest way is probably a USB mictophone - Maplin offer a number of lternatives, some under the £100 mark (http://www.maplin.co.uk/c/dj-studio-and-audio/microphones/usb-microphones) - Amazon or a pro audio dealer are other sources - or even your ocal music shop if they cover home recording equipment. I can't make any reccomendations as I use an external soundcard and mics that cost rather more than £100 when I do need to record direct to computer. I think my son told me that he uses the Blue Snowball for his podcasts - but it was a while ago. Going back to the 1/8th in. input, dynamic mics are indeed another option - although some computer inputs have a small voltage on them to power electret mics, so some care might be needed (that said, I've used dynamic mics into a MMinidisc trecorder that has plug-in-power with no problems). I sue AKG D190's - but they were over 50UKP when I bought them some 30 years ago! Long discontinued - last price I saw was around150UKP new. I have some cheaper dynamic mocs by Shure & Audio-Technica but I primarily use them for sound reinfrcement (or I did when health allowed!) Good luck with your project. Every Blessing Tony
  24. Nice April 1st story. Many pro/semi-pro location digital recorders have a pre-record buffer as described - nothing magic about it, the machine is "listening" and saves the last few seconds of what it's heard at the start of the track. Primarily intended for recording unprefictable speakers in press conference & similar situations. Nothing magic about it at all. Every Blessing Tony
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