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  1. The three manual instrument you mention at St Matthew's in London was in Ealing in west London for what was then a new church, built on Ealing Common. I am a native of Ealing, grew up there, but have since been transplanted to New York. But I know the church well and the organ, having played it many times.

     

    Unfortunately, it is not in its original condition. I believe it was originally a two manual instrument with pneumatic action, with the console detached from the instrument and placed opposite in the choir stalls.

     

    The organ was enlarged in 1912 by Brindley & Foster to three manuals. At the same time, the action was made electro-pneumatic and the old console ripped out and a new, attached console put in. The new stalls put in the place of the console don't match the original, and you can see the site of the old console clearly if you look in the church.

     

    The new action involved new soundboards, which were a sliderless invention of Brindley & Foster, with an individual leather purse/motor controlling a pallet on every note for every single pipe. Unfortunately, when one of those motors failed, which became quite a common occurrence in the 1980s, it meant removing a whole rank of pipes to fix it. Thankfully, they were deromatically and the organ does not hold a tuning well at all.

     

    After 1912, no work was done to the organ, until it was cleaned and overhauled, and possibly rewired, in around 1960 by Arthur Noterman. It then remained unaltered until around 1996 when it was restored by Heritage Organ Builders. At that time, the Swell Vox Humana was replaced with a 4ft Clarion.

     

    The work of 1912 led to the most bizarre internal layout of the organ. The Great is above the console, the new Choir was behind the console and under the Great, the swell was to the left of the Great, as you look at the instrument, with the shutters pointing towards the Gt. That meant the Swell sounded quite good from the opposite choir stalls, but it completely fails to speak into the main body of the church. The internal layout has not changed

     

    The organ is in a chamber to the side of the choir stalls in what would be the 'north' side, had the church been built on an east/west axis. The church has a dry accoustic, despite virtually no carpet. It is a red-brick Victorial church, but the open, exposed brickwork in the church is not coated and absorbs a lot of sound.

     

    Placing the console within the organ means that it is impossible to balance with a choir. However, the church uses some microphones and some small speakers in the console to act as monitors only for the benefit of assisting the organist in balancing with a choir. The organ can be very loud from the console, but sounds weak in the main body of the church.

     

    It has the most bizarre piston system I have ever seen - very Heath-Robinson, which I can't begin to describe. You can't set pistons and you don't see stops go in and out when you press a piston. The Pedals have composition pedals, as does the Swell (the Sw composition pedals are in addition to the four pistons). There are no general pistons. There is a general crescendo pedal, which cannot be adjusted from the console.

     

    Despite all this, there are some elements in the instrument that lend themselves very well to the performance of French romantic liiterature. And the Great Principal Chorus seems to be based and voiced to what is now the Small Open Diapason 8ft, which may have been the original Montre 8ft. On the other hand, the original Montre 8ft may now be the Large Open Diapason and the rest of the principal chorus may have been re-scaled and voiced to the Small Open Diapason. I just don't know!

     

    The original poster to this thread will find information on the National Pipe Organ Register website, although I am unable to access it at the moment. I keep getting a message telling me I will be directed to a new home page, but that is as far as it gets.

     

    From memory, I will attempt to reproduce the current stop list, even if I can't remember all the names:

     

    Pedal

    Sub-Bass 32ft (Accoustic and drawn solely from the 16ft Open Wood rank)

    Open Wood 16ft

    Violone 16 ft (extention of Violonecello)

    Violoncello 8ft

    Bourdon 16ft (extension of Flute 8ft)

    Flute 8ft

    Trombone 16ft

    Contra Fagotto 16ft (From Swell)

     

    Choir (unenclosed)

    Open Diapason 8 ft

    Lieblich Gedakt 8 ft

    Salicional 8ft

    Voix Angelica 8ft

    Flute of some sort 4ft

    Nazard 2 2/3 (but incorrectly labelled as another 4ft flute)

    Flute of some sort 2ft

    Clarinet 8ft (Tenor C upwards)

    Posaune 8ft

     

    Great

    Bourdon 16 ft

    Large Open Diapason 8ft

    Small Open Diapason 8ft

    Lieblich Gedakt 8ft

    Flute Harmonique 8ft (arguably the nicest stop on the organ)

    Dulciana 8ft (not like an English Dulciana at all and may originally have been called something else)

    Principal 4ft

    Suabe Flue 4ft

    Fifteenth 2ft

    Mixture III

    Posaune 8ft (same as Choir Posaune and sited on its own chest next to the Gt soundboard. The style is more French than anything else, despite its name)

     

    Swell

    Bourdon 16 ft

    Open Diapason 8ft

    Lieblich Gedakt 8ft

    Viole da Gamba 8ft

    Voix Celeste 8ft

    Principal 4ft

    Flute of some sort 4ft

    Flute of some sort 2ft

    Mixture III

    Contra Fagotto 16ft

    Horn 8ft (I think this is actually a harmonic trumpet in the French style)

    Oboe 8ft

    Tremulant (doesn't work)

    Clarion 4ft

    Swell Octave

    Swell Sub Octave

    Swell Unison Off

     

    The two manual mixtures are quint and break once at Tenor B.

     

    The clarinet has preparation for the bottom octave, but it has never been fitted. Some remedial work was done in the early 1990s, which included the clarinet being taken away to be cleaned after some water damage. The pipes that came back looked nothing like the ones that went away. In order to avoid any suspicion of libel, I will not name the builder concerned who carried out that work.

     

    When the work of Heritage Builders was carried out, I don't think the church knew too much about the original instrument. The main purpose of the work was to make the organ reliable and to replace the original blower, which was housed outside the building, was very noisy and unreliable and drew in cold, damp air that helped perish the leather work. That it lasted so long was a testimony to the quality of the original engineering.

     

    The mid 1990s work involved a thorough cleaning of all the pipework, replacing all the leatherwork in bellows, trunking and pneumatic motors. A swell engine replaced the mechanical link on the Swell shutters in preparation for a new, detached console - a dream that has yet to be realised.

     

    Pictures of the interior of the church in history books on Ealing show a different appearance to the side of the organ, dating back to before the 1912 work. This was before the Swell organ had been placed there, and it almost certainly would have allowed for better egress of sound into the church.

     

    With the benefit of hindsight, a restoration to the two manual scheme would have been better, even if it did not mean the restoration of the original console and pneumatic action, as it would have allowed for a better internal layout and greater egress of sound into the church.

     

    I am guessing now, but I think the original Gern scheme of 1884 would have had a stop list along the lines of the following:

     

    Pédale

    Soubasse 16ft

    Flute 8ft

    Bombarde 16ft

     

    (I don't think the Pedal 16ft Violone 16ft and 8ft in today's instruments were original, but that's only a hunch)

     

    Grande Orgue

    Bourdon 16ft (still there)

    Montre 8ft (now Small Open Diapason, I'm guessing)

    Bourdon 8ft (now Lieblich Gedakt)

    Gambe 8ft (now Dulciana)

    Flute Harmonique 8ft (still there)

    Prestant 4ft

    Flute of some sort 4ft

    Doublette 2 ft

    Fourniture ? ranks

    Trompette 8ft

     

    Récit

    Bourdon 16 ft (still there)

    Diapason 8ft (now Open Diapason)

    Lieblich Gedakt 8ft

    Viole da Gamba 8 ft

    Voix Céleste 8ft

    Prestant 4ft

    Flute Triangulaire 4ft (still there, but now renamed. I remember being amazed at seeing the pipes during the mid 1990s work. I'd never seen a Flute Triangulaire before)

    Flute of some sort 2ft

    Plein Jeu III-IV

    Contra Fagotto 16ft

    Trompette Harmonique 8ft

    Basson/Hautbois 8ft

    Voix Humana 8ft

    Temblant

     

    Gern did live and work in Notting Hill in west London. He built a similar-sized organ in St Stephens in Ealing, which is now redundant. I'm not sure what happened to this organ, but it was rebuilt by Noterman in the 1960s. The organ at Notre Dame de France in Leicester Square has indeed been altered an enlarged several times and is now beyond recognition.

     

    I think little of Gern's work survives in tact, so the opportunity to restore an original is rare and should be cherished. Indeed, most of his work seems to have been latered beyond recognition, which is a shame.

     

    If Gern had enjoyed some of the same opportunities in London that Cavaillé-Coll enjoyed in Paris and France, the shape of British organ building might have taken a different course at the end of the 19th Century.

     

    I've no idea if there are any pictures of him anywhere. I'd be interested to see if anyone else knows more about him or his work.

     

    Sorry for such a long post.

     

    Regafds

    Anthony Poole

     

    Most interesting!....I lived in Ealing until the late 1960's and well remember playing this organ in the 50's ...unfortunately I was then rather a "rev up the large motorbike/organ " youngster and well remember the elderly verger there telling me "there is no need to make a meal of it" ..meaning the probably foul racket I made !

     

    Pity to have played it then and not now as I would now be exceedingly interested to see how French- influenced it was.

     

    I do,though clearly remember the extraordinary piston arrangements!

     

    A propos of Gern/C-C I do remember that,in the early 50's, when Mander inspected the(somewhat derelict) instrument in St Barnabas Ealing, in his report he mentioned that some of the pipework looked to be by Gern. There was a rather beautiful floating quality of the C-C sort to the Open Diapason on the swell,and this might have been the pipes he mentioned? Perhaps G's French pipework escaped into the general environment?

     

    Cheers Richard Whitaker

  2. Can knowledgeable members tell me what it is about Cavaille-Coll soubasse 16ft pedale stops that is so extraordinary? (I've played quite a few in France and Holland)

     

    There seems to be a harmonic development and accurate speech that put almost all English bourdons to shame.

     

    The C-C ones seem to be capable of sustaining soft and quite loud combinations equally well (Gerard Brooks commented on this quite recently in "Organist's Review) ,and they don't cough or ooze into speech,having a sort of pervasive quality.

     

    I seem to remember W L Sumner saying years ago that the replacement of the English bourdon by a C-C soubasse was the single thing that would most render English organs infinitely more musical.

     

    Was it sheer quality of construction? ...I know that C-C used very good timber and that money was no object when it came to artistic value

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