SinaL
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There has been regular reference in these pages to the growing English influence on the German organ scene, as seen in the many imports of redundant specimens of solid 19c English romantic organs and in the new-found taste in high pressure reeds added to existing instruments.
The civic authorities in Duisburg seem to have gone the whole hog in commissioning a new IVP/61 instrument for the Mercatorhalle, the main concert venue in the city.
The specification Mercatorhalle, on paper at least, looks worthy of Arthur Harrison c. 1920 with a Grand Cornet V thrown in for good measure.
All the more remarkable is the fact that the new instrument comes from the workshops of one of the most traditional and long-standing of German organbuilders, Eule of Bautzen.
JS
There have been many failures by Traditional German Organ Builders to build "foreign-style" organs (e.g Rieger). I just hope that this new organ works out well and does not end up with shril mixtures or reeds sounding like french bombardes or the clarinet sounding like a Krumhorn!
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This just sounds amateur. Too many wrong notes and inconsistencies in tempo.
EC
And youre being nice. Its much worse than that.
AND ITS A TRIBUTE VIDEO!!
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What on earth is wrong with the sound here? I'm sure this must be a very fine organ, but the sound quality of the recording is just vile. Is it a transfer from a worn and stretched cassette tape?
Nope, the poster of the video was there while Diane was playing and he said the organ sounded even worse in person!
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And for those who have not yet experienced Feike Asma's eye-popping performance of Widor's Toccata:
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Behold, The most pleasant sounding instrument that has been built.
It astounds professionals as to how any organbuilder could create such wonderful art
Karg Elert's Marche Triomphale will be demonstrated by Diane Bish
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbGjBt3X4qk...feature=related
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Opening Voluntary - Allegretto from 5 short pieces, Whitlock.
Introit - Coelos Ascendit Hodie, Stanford
Responses - Leighton
Psalm - 48 (Chant by Garrett)
Canticles - St Paul's Service, Howells
Anthem - Let all the World, Vaughan Williams
Hymn - Saviour again to thy dear name
Voluntary - Scherzo from Sonata in E flat, Bairstow
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Is this one of the Bevan family whose father used to be DOM at Downside School perhaps? If so there are quite a few of them still around down here - Rupert plays at the RC church in Bath, Tony does a lot of violin playing locally, Rachel is a noted singer and singing teacher ('taught me for a bit) - one (maybe David) used to be DOM at a RC church in Kensiington or thereabouts - possibly the one under discussion elsewhere here?
A
There is a David Bevan at St.Thomas More RC church in Chelsea not the one under discussion. He used to be assistant master of music at Westminster cathedral during the seventies.
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The Fanfare Trumpet and Tuba at St.Bride's Fleet Street are also hair-raising.
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As to where the UK's loudest Tuba is, I can confidently state (without either hearing every Tuba in the country, sans frivolity or boasting) that I've got it. Demonstrations can be given if required. It is so loud that I dare not use it except as a rather shallow thrill for visitors.
So what church are you at, with that dazzling tuba, if you don't mind me asking.
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Tenor C. It means that this is the lowest note for the stop and that there are no pipes for the bottom octave. The stops that most commonly have a tenor C compass are Voix Celeste, Vox Angelica and Clarinet.
(Snap! Took too long replying!)
Thanks, I saw it once on a Fanfare Trumpet at Holy Trinity Sloane Square, London. do you think it was because there was no space to fit the bottom octave pipes?
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I sometimes see "TC" on specifications, especially on string stops, and once on a reed.
What does this mean???
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What about the Tubas at St.Michael Cornhill and St.Peter Eaton Square, Belgravia.
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What about the ex-Gloucester Cathedral one at All Saints Margaret St? I guess it's probably not on an expecially high pressure, but it's always seemed startlingly loud in the building...
JJK
That could go on the list, due to the church being so small.
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From a recent publication which would probably prefer not to be named, "The pedals should start with the same or a similar timbre to the grate".
Well I think it would do them good to be named here for their idiocy. Editors know they should check that everything is correct.
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In the early 1970s this church had a 3 manuel Willis which was in bad health. This organ was replaced by a 2 manuel tracker organ built by Bishops of Ipswich. The Bishop organ was far to small for the building and the action was very heavy.
I have no idea of what is now in place.
Maybe David Wyld will be kind enough to loof up the details of the Willis organ?
Alan
Hi actually the small Bishop organ is still in place, i phoned them up and they said it's still tuned and maintained.
They'll give me specs soon.
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Another two "Earthquake Zones" are the two post-WW2 Walker giants, at the City Temple and St Columba Scottish church, London. They arnt very interesting instruments, nothing great about them, except the string choruses which in my opinion are amazing!
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I would nominate a couple; The Royal Hospital School, Holbrook (West End organ) and in London, All Hallows, Gospel Oak. When hearing the former in a Howells Psalm Prelude, I actually ducked between the pews as the crescendo grew. On a good day and in the right hands, I believe the Hill in Gospel Oak can change the London weather pattern. Both most interesting buildings though.
Best wishes,
N
Definately the Royal Hospital School one is extremely loud. But ive never heard the one at All Hallows except for a couple of youtube videos and full great+swell doesnt seem so loud in the video comparing to less organ used! But ill have to go there myself and see.
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Sorry, there's been a bit of confusion here - Organist12345 called earlier and spoke to our Office Manager who shouted a question across the office to me as I passed through - I thought that the job in question was the other thing talked about this week - where is it, oh yes, the 'TUNKS' job!
Right, the file is out, here we go:
A new church begun in 1954 designed by Adrian Gilbert Scott, temporary Church in Allen Street and we put in a second-hand organ by Vowles of Bristol, 1874, lately of St. Martin's Episcopal Church, Edinburgh - we have photographs of the job, presumably in its Edinburgh home.
The church authorities were somewhat confused in what they wanted for the new church, they were quoted for a new organ (by us and several others) but they finally settled on simply moving the Vowles into the new church.
Three Manuals and Pedals (58 / 30), Pneumatic throughout.
Great:
Open diapason 8 (Spotted Metal)
Gamba 8 (Spotted Metal)
Clarabella 8 (Wood)
Principal 4 (Spotted Metal, cone tuned)
Twelfth (Spotted Metal, cone tuned)
Fifteenth 2 (Spotted Metal, cone tuned)
Trumpet (Sp. M., Hooded)
Swell:
Double Diapason 16 (Wood & spotted Metal)
Open Diapason 8 (Spotted Metal)
Vox Angelica (Ten c) (Spotted Metal)
Dulciana 8 (Common Bass to St. D.) (Spotted Metal)
Stopped Diapason (Wood)
Principal (Spotted Metal, cone tuned)
Piccolo 2 (Spotted Metal)
Cornopean 8 (Spotted Metal)
Hautboy 8 (Spotted Metal)
Choir:
Dulciana 8 (Spotted Metal)
Lieblich Gedact 8 (Wooden Bass, rest Spotted Metal)
Harmonic Flute 4 (Spotted Metal)
Clarinet (Spotted Metal)
Pedal:
Bourdon 16
Violincello 8 (Wood)
Dulciana 8 (Spotted Metal)
Couplers: Gt-Ped; Sw-Ped; Ch-Ped; Sw-Gt; Ch-Gt; Sw-Ch; Sw-Gt Oct.
We had the care of it until 1972 but know nothing of what happened after that time.
Sorry about the confusion earlier,
DW
Thanks so much for the information, I was also a bit confused when I heard the office manager say "Tunks" as to wether he was referring to another organ!
Thanks again. I think i'll try and call Bishop next.
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In the early 1970s this church had a 3 manuel Willis which was in bad health. This organ was replaced by a 2 manuel tracker organ built by Bishops of Ipswich. The Bishop organ was far to small for the building and the action was very heavy.
I have no idea of what is now in place.
Maybe David Wyld will be kind enough to loof up the details of the Willis organ?
Alan
Hi
I just phoned up Willis, and they said that their organ was replaced in the 1950s by an H&H organ. H&H are going to phone me back with details (I hope Willis didnt make a mistake!).
No Bishop organ was mentioned when I spoke with them!!
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In the early 1970s this church had a 3 manuel Willis which was in bad health. This organ was replaced by a 2 manuel tracker organ built by Bishops of Ipswich. The Bishop organ was far to small for the building and the action was very heavy.
I have no idea of what is now in place.
Maybe David Wyld will be kind enough to loof up the details of the Willis organ?
Alan
Thanks for that, so it seems the church may have payed a lot for completely different organs!
How could this not be in the NPOR!
I THINK that the current organ has 19 stops from what I remember.
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As some forum members are going to visit "exotic" places for the 1st time, and wanting to know what there is to see, I thought I had better ask too.
My partner has just bought a cheap deal to Lloret De Mar, and as my geography is not too good, I heard that Barcelona is just "down" the road. I have never been there before, so if anyone has any ideas, please bring them on
Peter
Ideas for organs to play?
Well there are two nice ones in Barcelona. In the Cathedral and in the "Palau de la Musica". My guess is that it may be a bit tricky organising to play in those places since they are quite strict in what you can do, and the latter is a Concert Hall. But best of luck and I wish you have a sunny holiday.
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Back on topic, the Exeter College Walker sends a rumble through the chapel, even with only a couple of great stops on! Its way too big for the chapel, especially that 16ft Pedal Bombarde!!!!!!!
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The 1872 organ was obviously lost by fire in 1953, but who the bloody hell was "TUNKS" who did things to it in 1924(?)
DW
These "TUNKS", whom ive never heard of, may have something to do with this pile of ****, some parts of the old one could have been saved. Never trust an unknown organ builder!
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Well - this is a strange organ anyway - lots of stops and nothing balances/ blends with anything else IMO (1969) - the only memorable thing about practising there was the cleaner (verger?) who usually brought his dog into the church - and it barked (probably at my playing) and he would go about SHOUTING "don't bark in church!!, don't bark in church!!"....
Many of the stops are useless, including a lot of the great organ, which (except for the ear-splitting trumpets!) is quite soft. I still wonder why when H&H did work on it they didnt revoice or replace those disgusting reeds with more romantic trombas or posaunes on a lower wind pressure, and possibly added a more suiting Choir Tuba.
A New Project For A Belgian (big) Church
in The Organ
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Isnt this the specs of the 1930 klais at Kristus-Koning-Kerk in Antwerp?
Are you restoring the organ i.e its not a big new project?