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Rowland Wateridge

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  1. Was this during the Psalm(s)? Surprising, as Norwich has exceptionally gifted organists, but like anywhere else, they don’t necessarily play at all services. I have to say that my experience at Norwich has been different with organ-playing which was brilliant, particularly considering that the organist had to ‘work round’ parts of the instrument which were failing. I gathered from him that the rebuild is necessary and long overdue. Indeed the Dean said much the same when the restoration project was announced; incidentally that mentioned a period of 75 years since the last major restora
  2. I may have missed something, but is there any news about the original premises in Bethnal Green and the extensive equipment (including casting table)? Will any of that be available to the new company? Kent and Sussex organists will be familiar with the Mander name: Canterbury and Chichester Cathedrals, the latter especially successful both visually and for the organ’s sympathetic restoration and enlargement. As to clergy, my (admittedly pretty limited) experience is that few know anything much about organbuilders except, perhaps, the instrument in their own church - and some of them no
  3. He composed a considerable amount, and in different genres including songs and service settings, but, as you surmise, much of it is unpublished. He was an alumnus of Jesus College Cambridge, and they publish a catalogue of his personal papers listing 135 compositions. Inexplicably the version I have has introductions in Spanish! A trawl through this would produce a sizeable list. This is the rather strange link. There may be another, more direct, one: https://collegecollections.jesus.cam.ac.uk/index.php/informationobject/browse?page=3&names=47317&sf_culture=pt&sort=id
  4. S_L: This is very helpful! Thank you. People should now be able to work out the derivations.
  5. To my knowledge, Compton’s published a booklet about the Downside organ - but I don’t possess a copy! I guess it ought to be possible to track it down somewhere. MM is, of course, the expert on Compton’s, and may be able to throw some light on this.
  6. Actually, the announcement refers to the importance of taking some time to find a new place and formulate a plan for the move. It specifically mentions undertaking local consultation “whilst securing the future care of Downside’s Abbey Church, Library and Archives”. Clearly there is no risk of the Abbey Church being left abandoned. The likelihood, surely, is that the organ will remain. It’s now a case of “watch this space”.
  7. I feel rather named and shamed here. ‘Acerbic’ was not meant in an unkind way, and I have thanked S_L in a private email, acknowledging the breadth of expertise that he has brought to the forum in more than just organ matters, and I’m happy to repeat that publicly here.
  8. I have just worked out what you meant by “the Dean of a large church in London”! A plum appointment and congratulations to Dr Hoyle.
  9. Dave, A non-organ matter, possibly one of the last on the present forum. I knew about Dean Pigou at Chichester, although unaware that he moved to Bristol. His predecessor (as already mentioned) at Chichester, Dean Burgon, had a decidedly stormy passage there, always at odds with his Chapter, and the dislike seems to have been mutual. The contrast with your description of Dean Pigou's experience is stark! Interestingly, although not exact contemporaries - a few years between them - both Dean Pigou at Chichester and Dean Garnier at the next-door cathedral, Winchester, both had Huguenot ance
  10. I don't know whether Adnosad was motivated to make that comment as a result of mine, quoted by Dave Harries in an entirely different context, nor do I think he is in a position to assume who has or has not joined the new site. I'm only aware of one existing member deciding that, after all, he is choosing to "call it a day". That does not make him (or anyone else) "a martyr". I shall miss his knowledgable comments - sometimes acerbic, as he has freely admitted! - and I speak as one having been on the receiving end!
  11. Sorry, I don’t know either name, but from an index search on this site clearly the late David Drinkell knew of Drane, and in June 2018 also mentioned Canon Gordon Paget. Earlier in July 2007 Tony Newnham also referred to Drane’s notebooks, remarking then that Drane was “no longer with us”. Worth your waiting until Tony next logs in for a possible answer.
  12. Sorry to be so po-faced, but many of these posts seem rather ungracious and ungrateful to the existing hosts. Would it be such a radical idea that the existing forum might continue, possibly under new management, and incorporate, in some way, the name of Mander as a lasting memorial to the firm? There are other such bodies which do on subjects as disparate as defunct makes of cars and motor cycles to the somewhat esoteric extreme of the Burgon Society founded in 2000, but named after a former Dean of Chichester who died in 1888.
  13. Subject to correction from someone better qualified, my understanding is that the intellectual property in a comment posted on a blog belongs to the commenter. I realise that by 'perceived' value, you don't mean a monetary one. I could see the subject of providing copies would be a different issue.
  14. It would certainly be good to know. But if the recording was of the Rodgers, would it not be a bit misleading to say it was of the Cathedral organ? That, surely, implies the Tickell. I know there are cathedrals with the luxury of two pipe organs (not counting chamber organs and box organs); Chelmsford and Southwell come to mind. There may be others, and the plan at Worcester was to have a second one as well but that has not yet come to fruition. We know from an earlier thread that there is some Midi connection between the Tickell organ and the Rodgers; it was something which concern
  15. I don’t think I am giving away any State secrets, but at an event I attended in October 2017 Christopher Allsop mentioned that the Tickell organ had received the attentions of Nicholson’s. I don’t have local knowledge, and so unaware what the present situation might be.
  16. Replying to Cantoris, are you referring to the UK situation during present times, i.e., while Covid-19 restrictions are in force? Apart from the destruction during WW II I can only think of one major cathedral organ in this country largely destroyed by fire - and that was a considerable time ago - at Norwich Cathedral. Actually the fire started while Heathcote Statham was playing. But it was rebuilt, and on a grander scale, by HN&B (the magnificent case by Stephen Dykes-Bower added later) and, unlike Notre Dame, there was no State ownership or funding. Presumably all cathedral org
  17. I have responded on the ‘Tickell Organs’ thread. Although this was their last organ, the company continued to exist into 2020.
  18. That has turned out to be the last organ built by the company. Wolsey qualified his 2018 post (not quoted by bam) by saying that it may well be the last. The company itself still existed on 5th March this year, as I have said, at the preliminary stage of a voluntary application to strike it off the Register of Companies. When I checked the position, both the company and the application were ‘live’. Clearly this is now academic, but just to make the point that the company remained in existence although seemingly inactive.
  19. As you say, this appears to have gone unnoticed. The statutory first notice to be published in the London Gazette for voluntary striking Kenneth Tickell & Company Limited off the Register of Companies was dated 5th May 2020. In the absence of any reason to the contrary the company was due to be struck off the register not less than two months from 5th May. As yet there is no mention of a second notice that this has actually happened. Whatever the situation, this has been a sad day for British organbuilding.
  20. This is terribly sad, and I can only echo John Robinson’s hope that some kind of rescue will be possible. I think tribute is due to John Pike Mander personally, not only for his great achievements in organbuilding but his generosity in providing this discussion board and sharing his expert knowledge with such patience and courtesy.
  21. There is the argument that the size of the congregation is irrelevant to the Opus Dei, but realistically one cannot ignore issues of finance. Dispensing with weekday Evensong would mean an annual loss of around 250-300 services (depending on whether Saturday is counted) and all the associated liturgy. At my local cathedral we used to have weekday choral matins which was given up for these reasons - a slippery slope?
  22. Thank you. That is good news on all fronts.
  23. For those of us who live at long distances from Leeds, will there be any chance of a YouTube, or similar, recording? I have a friend in the US who would love this. Also very good news that live concerts are to return to the Town Hall. As a guess, would Percy Whitlock be the one composer without a direct link to Yorkshire? - or do we have to wait until Saturday for the answer? On reflection, Johann Strauss seems more likely. Intriguing!
  24. Replying to Michael Wilson’s latest post, we seem to be going round in circles! You will see in my reply to Dafydd y Garred Wen “I think we agree that the Abbey is not a royal chapel”. But it is undoubtedly a Royal Church vested in the Dean and Chapter who are answerable only to her Majesty! So, back to the original subject, is there any evidence that the Abbey’s choral foundation faces any ‘threats’? PS to Cantoris: I don’t have access to the Church Times, and don’t feel I can add anything further to this discussion which has strayed far beyond the realm of music.
  25. The Cathedrals Measure 1963 has no application to Westminster Abbey which was only briefly a cathedral under Henry VIII to protect it from the effects of his own dissolution of the monasteries. Possibly you were only referring to the 1963 Measure as a comparison with the situation of cathedrals, but the status of the Abbey was, and remains, a Collegiate Church of the Dean and Chapter. What I have read elsewhere confirms what contraviolone has said that it vests in the Dean and Chapter. I don’t think that contraviolone or I were discussing the concept of fee simple, which I suspect has no ap
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