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  1. Yes, absolutely "well done Miriam." Indeed an inspiration. However from the first millisecond of putting down the first chord just so electronic. Again get what you pay for in that price range class of instrument. Attend full recital on that? no thankyou go home or the pub early. But here we have in so many instances young peoples first experience of the classical "pipe organ." So I guess good on it of course.
  2. Well, for all the "if, but, why, wherefore, will it, wont it.......etc etc" survive, (or not) discussion of weeks/months ago, the Mander Forum still gets very little attention, or additional material since it was "rescued." Maybe even less. I think we are going to have to do a lot better than thus far for it to remain viable and informative to members and non-members alike. With "Lockdown" etc. there is little excuse for not getting far more responses and new material now. Come on lets get to it! Nothing new? Then troll back through the archives as there is a massive amount of good material still to be expanded or updated. And all for our pleasure and education too! PLUS the forums permanent survival - nothing guaranteed these present days/years.
  3. It must be said that Messrs F. H. Browne must be extremely brave people to extend out into territories virtually (but not entirely) unknown to them. This especially not just in a bankrupt country as the the UK, but world in general, with churches in massive decline at present. The UK being their main market at present too. We can only wish them luck, and of course pick up a contract or two through maintaining this forum for us. Lets be honest the forum would have been set up initially with a view to advertising a product as well as giving ourselves a wonderful platform for discussion and information about a subject we all love. This is what Invision Community, former IPB, is (not totally) all about. Despite all, the Mander Forum has brought all of us much pleasure over many years and long may it continue under the new hosts, regardless of any commercial gain through it also. Again, thanks to John Mander and F. H. Browne because here we still are.
  4. Thanks for the correction and update ajsphead.
  5. From memory I think it may have been Trevor Tipple from Worcester, who took care of the Downside Compton?? Trevor now retired of course but he may well know the extended ranks of pipes there. He was awarded MBE for his services to Organ Building I believe.
  6. As a Bath Abbey chorister I went with a small group to Downside in the 60s I would think. I did play the Compton, but young as I was cannot remember much about it apart from all was working at that time, and it sounded magnificent in the Abbey Church. I believe the great Dom Gregory Murray was still organist at that time. Many of us will remember his many interludes composed for the liturgy. Published by R and D I think. Peter Matthews (also from Bath) took over from G.M. as organist as far as I can reflect, and also taught at the school. He was appointed Organist Emeritus on his retirement. I was given to understand that other work carried out in 2009 was the "re illumination" of the Compton press button stop controls. Console is a wonderful looking beast right opposite the enclosed pipework. Definately a place to visit. Lovely area.
  7. Downside School is very large and caters for catholics and non catholics alike. The abuse cases took place and were investigated thoroughly a number of years ago now, and appropriate action taken. The inspectorate cleared and reclassified the school to a high standard again a few years ago. It produces high quality alumini once again, as well as general education standards. It is unlikely the school will be affected and of course not all monks were teachers at the school, just as not all pupils were connected with the monastic situation. As indicated above this is not restricted to the RC church, but any church (or non church organisation) with high male authoritarian "management." As I indicated previously having lived in S E Asia for twelve years, it does not take long to discover the huge number of abuse cases in Buddhist temples. Exceeding enormously what we read about in our own countries at present, but that does NOT render it acceptable. Last year I stayed as a guest in another Benedictine Abbey in UK for over 3 months in special retreat. The way I was received and treated there was nothing more than excellent in all respects, yes including being able to play the two insitu organs. The Downside Abbey Church is magnificent in very beautiful surroundings plus yes the wonderful Compton restored not too long ago.
  8. Yes, the church schools get all the publicity of these sordid events and rightly so. However little or nothing is reported about rampant abuse in state schools, where I was abused multiple times in the 50s 60s. in a Bath school. Did anyone want to know about that then? Openly no, but to get it in a little proportion it was the Rector of my church who sorted it out very well in deed with the then Headmaster. Many clergy now doing excellent work still in this sphere. Don't knock them persistently, it reflects hugely on our churches, choirs and yes organists. I lived in SE Asia for 12 years where abuse of young monks in Buddhist temples is 1000s times worse than that we are unfortunately used to in Europe. Nothing said or dare be said for decades but just slowly changing. As for the fine Compton at Downside, hardly important in the issue just at the moment, as a few members have indicated. And no I never really got over the abuse, failing O levels as a result, and leaving school before A levels. We all must not reflect on this but ALL of us do something before all of of art and churches are lost. Too late to march the streets then. Apologies for sermon. Now back to our wonderful Forum. In fact still two forums at present.
  9. As we all realise this forum could disappear overnight. Is there one reliable trustworthy location (with email address) where all of us can in that one place place our name with email address. Then if a similar forum is set up we can be notified immediately. Having a thread on here for that purpose would leave all of us open for spamming and goodness knows what else. Just hate to loose this forum and all its history contained therein.
  10. Wonderful offer Steve, thankyou. Many of us would like to keep the same format I guess. However may be good to quickly start a new thread where we can air our views on what changes or additions would be interesting to add. Could be of course that there may be moves or offers behind the scenes by XYZ etc to keep this forum going as is?
  11. Thanks ajsphead and Damian for your welcome replies.With the glimpse thought it may have been The Temple Church. I will have to study Alkan a bit more. Any reasonably easy ones to start of with?
  12. Very nice out of the ordinary post, thankyou. Obviously a Harrison organ somewhere, but I not recognise it or the church interior shots. Presume the studies are available on IMSLP?
  13. What excellent positive organ news (for a change) in troubled times all round. Under similar circumstances in UK would this be happening? Mmm somehow I doubt it.
  14. Hello Headcase. Thanks for the extras on Bath Abbey Tuba etc. You would have been an apprentice during and after the disastrous enlargement of the instrument during Dudley Holroyds tenure (1970s) I would guess. But to give some credit here the beautiful positive case was added at that time. (Alan Rome was architect.) It sounded very good also. Wonderful your explanation of the voicing of the Tuba by Arthur Rundle. Yes I do remember the power of the wood Trombone Tromba on the pedal. Much earlier years Ernest Maynard was asked about extending down for a full length 32ft reed. His reply was quite right really, that with those pedal reeds thundering around the abbey nothing else was needed. The half length 32 trumpet added also in the 70s was next to useless really. Much of the guts of the organ were also removed at this time, hence Klais being awarded the contract for a new organ (basically) not long after, during Peter Kings time at Bath. That is what we have there today.
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