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  1. Very sad news indeed - I only saw/heard him once, at St. Paul's Church in Cheam some years ago - I remember him most for the infectious and thoroughly approachable way he made himself avalable to the audience after the recital as well as the way he communicated his music-making to those present throughout the event and, by doing so,completely involving them in the music. Lots of smiles in the huge audience, but a wonderfully absorbing introduction to the instrument for many of those present.


    May he rest in peace.



  2. I wonder if anyone has a copy of this motet they would be kind enough to share with me?


    It was originally (?) published by Cary as No. 109 in their Motets Ancient and Modern series. i have tried Banks Music Publications (who hold a large part of the Cary archive), and also Richard and Barbara at Allegro Music both without success.


    I'd really appreciate it if someone were able to send me a copy of the work that they might have lurking somewhere.


    With grateful thanks in hopeful anticipation,



  3. A good resource for some the music of the period (if it's not sadly gathering dust in the corner of a music cupboard in the organ loft already!) is:




    Like much of the music of that period, many of the compositions are easy on the ear, approachable for the average organist, tuneful, and popular (my opinion) with congregations and audiences. The sort of music that many academics might treat as very much 'second class' but actually encourage average day-to-day congregations to engage with the instrument.


    As an amateur parish organist, an accompanist and never a recitalist, with a love of the music of the late Victorian/Edwardian period, there is much to commend it. Yes, there is a huge amount from the period that might disappoint, but finding the gems is so satisfying. Stainer's short 'Song of Praise' comes to mind......... as does Faulkes's Prelude on Ein feste Burg (at, perhaps, the opposite end of the difficulty scale).


    Don't be put off by the mechanical synthetic sound examples that are offered by Bordun Music - indeed, congratulate them for making the effort to offer them as a taster; then play them as you find them - warmly!



  4. Old Hundreth arr. RVW, O taste and see RVW,Crimond Grant/ Baird Ross, God Save the Queen arr. Elgar (just to be different!). Played out with the Introduction, Andante, Scherzo and Fugue extracted from Pearce's Fantasia on the National Anthem.


    Aslo included Lead us heav'nly Father, lead us Mannheim, which like All people that on earth do dwell is helpfully Trinitarian!



  5. Taking the organ I play as an example,12 ranks have been extended and duplexed to give 23 stops. The result, a much more useful instrument. I believe Reg Cobb was behind the voicing, and I believe he was one of that small band of builders/voicers that knew what they were doing.


    Is this the same Reg Cobb that was associated with F.H. Browne for very many years?



  6. I was CRB checked as 'Choir Leader' 'suitable' for working with both children and vulnerable adults back in 2005.


    The resultant documentation from these checks is always only valid on the day the documentation is provided/ produced. I haven't been asked to confirm my 'suitability' since!!




    Coming back to the point, I was wondering how CRB checks are implemented with other members, particularly in a choir that mixes adults and children. The legal position would seem to be that only the choir leaders and anyone that works specificaly with the children need CRB checks. However I am aware of churches where all adult choir members are asked to complete a CRB check. What's your experience?

  7. I have to say (from a purely personal point of view, and in my opinion) that much of the more intimate understanding between choir and conductor is not pure arm waving skills and technique but much more about the understanding that develops over time between a choir and the conductor. I have only ever sung under one conductor that made me 'feel' he was watching me sing every second I was working for him, and that was Harry Bramma - most uncomfortabel, and very attentive, I was!!


    As a non-conductor (and wholly untrained pianist-turned-organist) that has directed my choir for a large number of years, Harry's unspoken lesson has served me well: never, ever, allow those singing to lose the feeling your are watching them personally,and........ if you do it is either because 'you' are not sufficiently familiar with the music, of that 'they' have not been rehearsed well enough.



  8. My quest has now been finally concluded. My thanks to those who assisted.


    The archivist at Notre Dame, Liverpool has confirmed that the hymn Beautiful Angel was set twice by a Sister, or Sisters, of the Order - it was apparently the norm for Sisters of the Order to publish music and words anonymously, even written words not associated with music.


    The first (and the one I was wanted to trace), was published in 1888 by Rockliff Brothers Ltd., Liverpool in a hymn book entitled ‘Convent Hymns and Music used by the Pupils of the Sisters of Notre Dame’ (hymn number 28).


    The second tune was again published by Rockliff Brothers Ltd. in 1905, and in another hymn book, ‘The Notre Dame Hymn Tune Book’ (hymn number 108).


    Sunday the 2nd October 2011 being the feast of The Holy Guardian Angels, I shall be introducing the hymn as a quiet Anthem + Descant with the choir I oversee.


    Kind regards to all,



  9. Many thanks for the words and suggestions so far. It has become clear that the words were also set to another tune, so I don't know if the suggestions that it might be found in the hymn books named are to the tune I am looking for or not!?


    Thanks to David for his early posting suggesting he'd be kind enough to transcribe it for me - that is very much appreciated, and if all else fails, I'll be sure to take you up on your kind offer.


    In the meantime, I hope someone will still be able to provide a scan.



  10. I wonder if anyone here has access to the harmony edition of a hymn I am trying to find, and would be happy to PM me a copy?


    The words start “Guardian Angel from Heaven so bright….”, and it was I hymn I remember singing at primary school back in the 1960’s. It seems to have been published in the Notre Dame Hymnal at the turn of the last century. There are a number of YouTube recordings, including




    Many thanks to anyone who is able to assist me in my quest.



  11. Many thanks to all for the helpful replies. Having looked at the options available to us and those suggested, and the cost of some of them, we are likely to move ahead with a quantity of Magazine Files housed library fashion on the new shelving and labelled appropriately. This is not only durably cost-effective, but it also allows very easy acces to the music when required. My librarian/archivist drew the line at using old cereal boxes, though I was rather taken with the idea!


    Kind regards to all,



  12. With a Choir that has been running for many years, and with over 40 members, we have built up a huge archive of music. This is currently housed in three odd, but large, cupboards and four four-drawer filing cabinets. All are at the back of the large (seats 60+) choir gallery, and all are completely stuffed full of music!


    I have been offered the funding to have some purpose-built storage cupboards made, to be more in keeping with the church and more practical to use, and have approached three manufacturers to have plans and costings established.


    My main difficulty is not the shells of the new storage cupboards, but how to file the music within them. I found Musicity.com in the USA, and have ordered their "Sampler 6 Pack" of storage boxes, which include three sizes of Octavo box. However, at a whopping £47 including shipping for just these six boxes, I feel this route will eventually turn out to be a step too far in terms of final cost, given the number of boxes we will likely need.


    Does anyone here know of a UK-based manufacturer who may be able to help with practical storage solutions for a large archive of sheet music sets? Or has anyone any useful suggestions as to how best to approach the 'problem'?


    Many thanks in advance for any useful thoughts that might help resolve a rather nice problem to have!



  13. Greetings all!


    I'm running Sibelius 3 which is quite old now, but does everything I want and the files are always compatible with previous or later versions; however, most people don't have Sibelius and I would like to be able to occasionally send scores converted to pdf documents.

    There's the option in Sibelius to save scores as 'graphics' but when I try this I get an error message saying that I don't have the correct Adobe software. I've got the free 'Adobe Reader' but need something which will create files in this format but don't really want to pay a lot for software to do something which I wouldn't get much use.

    I'm sure I've seen a thread on here before about this but can't find it at present.

    Does anyone know of a free bit of software to create pdf documents?





    David - I'm happy to recommend Cute PDF, which is free, and without advertising - once downloaded it appears (as does Adobe) as a 'printer' when you go to print, and has worked tirelessly for me for a number of years:







  14. Very many thanks to all who have contributed their advice, both here and privately. I have duly passed on the relevant information to an extremely appreciative parish priest.


    Kind regards, Tony

  15. With apologies, but I couldn't find a more appropriate thread in which to make this request.......


    An old friend is a Parish Priest with a Baldwin electronic instrument that is in need of attention. I have looked online and cannot find anything or anyone helpful. I'm sure I have read on these august pages somewhere of a specialist in such things, and wonder if anyone is able to offer (PM if appropriate) anything that might assist me/him in anyway? The instrument is located in Bexleyheath, in S.E. London. I hope nobody will be offended at my asking.


    With grateful thanks, Tony

  16. Firstly a couple of contrasting performances of the William Tell Overture:


    - to my mind it's musicianship on the theatre organ and theatre on the church organ (I do appreciate both are church organs, but I'm sure you'll get my drift!). Happy to be disagreed with!?


    Secondly, Lauridsen's absolutely stunning O Magnum Mysterium from Westminster Cathedral's last

    . The moment you hear the organ enter the score you realise, if you haven't appreciated them already, what a world-class choir this is. Look out for, and listen to, Whitacre's Lux Arumque from the same Mass.



  17. I thoroughly enjoyed most of the KCC Nine Lessons and Carols this year, but once again am left challenged by the use of the word 'carol' for some of the more obscure (modern?) items. How would others define the noun carol in a Christmas context? At what point does a carol become a Christmas anthem, or is any music with a Christmas theme to be defined as a carol?


    There are obviously those carols that have been determined as such over time and through tradition, most of which encourage participation from beyond the choir. Beyond this, for me personally, it gets a trifle difficult to draw a line between something appropriate for a concer or carol service, and something that is better left for something more reflective and/or eucharistic in nature.


    Is it just the passing of time and familiarity that eventually attaches the word to a piece of music, or should there be other essential qualities present to enable the description to be invoked?


    Tony (who shocked a small number of conservative Catholic attendees at a carol concert in the church by using the John Julius Norwich 12 Days exactly as written - it was suggested afterwards that the Blessed Sacrament should have been removed from the church prior to the concert - it was huge, huge fun though!)

  18. I'm sure I have a vinyl recording of this concerto - I'll dig out the reference if nobody else has it immediately to hand. Like you, I am unable to find it currently available on CD - surely it must be?




    I wonder whether anyone could point me in the direction of a recording of this work, please? I'm pretty sure it's not commercially available, but perhaps someone has an off-air recording that they would be willing to share with me. As a young lad, I was involved in some of the early performances of the concerto, and met the composer. But I've never heard it since (and can recall tantalizingly little of it).
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