Marko Hakanpää
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In a large part of Europe the freely programmable pistons are known as Setzer-combinations. Sequencer is a play-memory, a device that records what you have played, so that you can go to the nave and listen to the organ playing what you just played.
In my organ there is an unlimited number of Setzer-combinations, and the number of the current combination (=piston) is shown on a small display over the top manual. So it is really not possible to get lost. It is also possible to save a combination between two existing ones, for example between 1 and 2 there can be 1.1 or 1.224 or whatever. Then there are the combination lists, which are named A001 to Z999. Each list can have an unlimited number of combinations and the combinations can be copied and moved from a list to another like with the Windows clipboard. So it is possible to store every registration of every piece you ever play, and you can get them anytime you want and assemble them for a recital programme, for example. Each player has his unique user name and password, so every time you come to the organ, the console is "empty" and you only have access to your own registrations.
Sounds complicated and technical maybe, but this system is really versatile and I wouldn't change it for anything.
Btw I also have the Divisionals and generals, but they are almost never used. It is simpler to program a straightforward sequence of combinations for every piece.
The organ and console can be seen at http://kotisivu.mtv3.fi/marko.hakanpaa/mikaelin-engl.htm
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Does someone honestly think that the organ is an electric or electronic device? The UK seems to be the only country that thinks so. This directive applies to such devices only, so manufacturing organ pipes is not threatened. I would compare the organ with a car: they contain electric and electronic components, but they are not electric devices. As stated in the quote in my previous message, the blower or the piston system may be affected by the directive, but not the organ as a whole.
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Some think the organ is not to be held as an electronic or electric appliance, though it has an electric blower. Thus this directive applies to the blower, not the pipes. The truth remains to be seen.
"Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 12:47:10 +0100
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From: Ibo Ortgies <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: More on the EU and pipes
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http://listserv.albany.edu:8080/cgi-bin/wa...&T=0&O=D&P=6934 Hi, it is welcomed that Mr. Grassin from the estimated organ builder's organization ISO comments on the issue. The ISO, like the British IBO, is respected an honourable association, which represents equally honourable members, some of which are personal friends and some of which are and have cooperated and benefitted within the frame of the afore mentioned EU-projects. I'd like also to mention that some organ builders carry out research in other projects together with scientists etc., and everything which sees the light in form of publications, seminars etc. is highly welcomed. Mr. Grassin writes (or at least was quoted in the above mail), that some people do not have all the facts. That is obviously true, but one should also give all the facts. Especially when other people are publically asked to flood "the bureaucrats" (as some on this list put it) with protest mails etc. My point is, that obne should protest, whenever necessary, but one should know exadctly what the whole is about. In this case however, I think the arguments are not convincing (yet) - maybe they can be more substantiated. > Here they are in a condensed and plain > talk manner: The EU has passed two new sister laws, the first > addressing the waste of electrical and electronic equipment (WEEE) > and the second the reduction of use of hazardous substances (RoHS). > The latter 2002/95 is the one concerning us today. It can be > downloaded on >http://dkc3.digikey.com/PDF/Marketing/RoHSdirective_2002-95-EC.pdf: I think it is important to read the whole title, which is adressed by the directive, as provided in the link, Mr. Grassin kindly provided The directive is about " ... restriction of the use of certain hazardous substances in electrical and electronic equipment" Not adressed are non-electrical or non-electronical equipment, like pipes, conducts etc. (which was alleged by the IBO call, s. below) Exempted are, however, tin-lead solder alloys containing more than 85 % lead (annex, no. 7), and without time-limit. Remember, this is for substances in electrical and electronic equipment, which pipes are not.) > [...] What does the law say? In essence, it says that any new > equipment which runs on electricity containing mercury, cadmium, > lead, chromium VI, PBB or PBDE cannot be sold in the EU from July 1. > The law is written in an all "inclusive" way: everything is under the > law unless it is explicitly excluded. Not everything: non-electronical equipment like pipes are not subject to the directive. > Then the questions become: 1) Does the organ run on electricity? > Well, unless you have hand pump or a water pump: yes That is true, of course. It is therefore up to everybody in the organ building business, using electrical and electronical equipment, to request of the producers of such equipment to avoid the mentioned hazardous materials. It is finally about the health of people and environment. I am certain that the ISO, the IBO and everybody thinks that the basic idea is a good one. Hardly any organ builder, I know, builds his own electronic wind supply or other electronical devices. As customers they can demand from the producers to comply with the EU-directive. And the producers anyway will have to comply already to the directive, independently from the demand of the organ builders. I appreciate very well, that the ISO, IBO and other professional institutions and institutes are concerned about the future of organ building (we all are, i think) and that they are in negotiations about the matter and bring forward good arguments, when discussing the matter on EU-level (better arguments than we have seen here on the list, hopefully) – as much (or little, for that matter) as the directive has to do with it. What I reacted to, however, was the unnecessary, alarmistic tone. In http://listserv.albany.edu:8080/cgi-bin/wa...&O=D&T=0&P=1482 for example where the distinction between the electronical equipment and the pipe work is blurred in words like: quote: >> Unfortunately, >> musical instruments are included on the hit-list and the legislation >> as it is currently designed will ban the use of lead in pipe organs. >> (Organ pipes are 50% lead, or more.) or quote: >> The effect on organ-building will be terminal. >> 1. This is not a safety issue - pipe makers live to a ripe old age, >> with no known damage to their health. >> 2. The use of tin-lead alloy is essential -there is no known >> substitute that will give equivalent musical results. >> 3. Pipe organs last indefinitely, and present no threat to >> the environment. All items which are not at all subject to the directive. That the change of used electrical equipment in blowers might be terminal to organ building, is in my opinion an exaggeration, which doesn't enhance the call's trustworthiness. Pipe maker's health should't be affected by electrical blowers. Statement 1 brinngs obviously pipe making into the discussion, without making clear that pipe making and electrical equipment have no connection. The musical results of tin-lead alloys (statement 2) refer to pipes. I do hope that the "musical results" of electrical blowers will not be audible (except of, that provide sufficient and musical wind to the pipes). The directive doesn't claim a threat by pipe organs (non-electrical equipment) as statement 3 alleges. I do hope and am convinced that the ISO and the IBO will act according to their usual objectivity. There is no use in alarmistic messages. Kind regards Ibo Ortgies"
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Please take a look at http://www.ondamar.demon.co.uk/lists/index.htm
There are long lists of rare stops, big organs etc.
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As a matter of interest - does anyone build new ones? - as opposed to the Fisk servo mechanism or similar newer developments.
AJJ
Several new instruments with Barker have been built in Finland during the last 10 years by various builders.
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Has anyone ever played a Pan Flute organ stop? It would surely not be an impossible task to construct, as the mechanics of a pan flute are quite simple...
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I have understood that the bearings of modern blowers only need oil added every 10 years. Older ones may need several times a year.
P.S. those interested in the technique of organs should go to http://www.laukhuff.de/ and download their complete catalogue of organ parts.
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Oh sorry, I forgot to mention that the coupler and swell pedals are electrical due to the electrical stop action, but the pedal keyboard itself is fully mechanical.
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...a regular tuning "touching up" and doing relatively little is better than major tuning at infrequent intervals.
That is exactly what I meant. It would take a lot longer than an hour to actually tune 13 reeds, but an hour is needed to check all the reeds and tune those not so many pipes that are actually out of tune. More tuning is needed in the summer, when temperature changes are rapid. In winter when the church is heated, the temperature stays better.
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In Finland all organists (should) take care of the reeds. Tuning is teached at the Sibelius Academy, and it belongs to the weekly duties of every church musician. Tuning the 13 reeds of my organ takes about an hour, if the air temperature hasn't changed a lot. Regular tuning keeps the reeds in shape and thus the time needed for the job will keep low. If they are neglected, they will eventually sound uneven and it will take more time to tune them.
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