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Help. Am in need of a toaster for hire in the SW (Bournemouth area) in the next couple of weeks for one night. Can collect and return. Fully insured at all times of transit and use. Needs to be suitable for a fairly large auditorium and for some reasonably tricky stuff (Chichester Psalms, Rejoice in the Lamb and Jenkins Armed Man), so a pretty reasonable 2/3 manual would be the order of things. Money available, though how much I don't know. Any takers here, or suggestions as to where I might try?

 

Thanks in advance...

 

D

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Help. Am in need of a toaster for hire in the SW (Bournemouth area) in the next couple of weeks for one night. Can collect and return. Fully insured at all times of transit and use. Needs to be suitable for a fairly large auditorium and for some reasonably tricky stuff (Chichester Psalms, Rejoice in the Lamb and Jenkins Armed Man), so a pretty reasonable 2/3 manual would be the order of things. Money available, though how much I don't know. Any takers here, or suggestions as to where I might try?

 

Thanks in advance...

 

D

 

Hi

 

There used to be a firm that specialised in organ hire - my memory says at Abinger Hammer, near Guildford, but I don't know if they're still in business. Other than that, try one of the companies that build/import them - they'll have a pretty good idea of what's available. I think the Albourne people at Huddersfield have (or had) a hire organ - but that's rather a long trek to your part of the world!

 

Every Blessing

 

Tony

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Help. Am in need of a toaster for hire in the SW (Bournemouth area) in the next couple of weeks for one night. Can collect and return. Fully insured at all times of transit and use. Needs to be suitable for a fairly large auditorium and for some reasonably tricky stuff (Chichester Psalms, Rejoice in the Lamb and Jenkins Armed Man), so a pretty reasonable 2/3 manual would be the order of things. Money available, though how much I don't know. Any takers here, or suggestions as to where I might try?

 

Thanks in advance...

 

D

 

 

Try and contact Anthony Bogdan he has a website or Phoenix

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Makin and Allen both hire out instruments and have bases in the South of the country. My choral society hired a 3M Allen for a performance of Vierne & Saint-Saens double-organ masses in Tewkesbury Abbey a couple of seasons ago and, whilst Allen would not be my personal choice for a permanent installation, the instrument was more than adequate for the job, and was installed on site for the day with a very generous and comprehensive loudspeaker system.

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David,

 

You could try Abinger Organs. Speak to Peter Flatau (pronounced Flayt-o) he's a very helpful chap and been in the hire business for years. Knows hhis stuff. www.abingerorgans.co.uk

 

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I have used both Allen and Makin recently. Makin provided an excellent 3M instrument for twelve months whilst work was being carried out on our pipe organ. We have hired from Allen several times, once for a concert in Salisbury Cathedral (Te Deum, Berlioz) where they provided Carlo Curley's 4M touring organ. We couldn't use the FW because of pitch problems and also the concert was at the West End. They positioned a battery of loudspeakers underneath the spire. I must confess that playing those opening chords of the Berlioz from a console at the West End was quite exhilarating. Oh, and they also provided another 2M instrument for use at the West End.

 

The cost was about £700 for one evening, but that was in 2003.

 

Ian Crabbe

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David,

 

You could try Abinger Organs. Speak to Peter Flatau (pronounced Flayt-o) he's a very helpful chap and been in the hire business for years. Knows hhis stuff. www.abingerorgans.co.uk

 

H

 

Hi

 

That's the name I was trying to remember. They used to be regulars at CRE, and their prices looked pretty reasonable. I never used the firm as I could never raise funding for the projects I had in mind.

 

Every Blessing

 

Tony

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Can't recommend Abinger highly enough.

 

Hired a biggie from them for a concert at HT in Guildford (Langlais mass) and it was excellent. Then wanted a long term lend while our organ being refurbished. They actually suggested buying one from them, which we did, and sold a year later for the same price we bought it for (worked out ten grand cheaper than hiring from one of the big names). They even let us have a few extra speakers as the church was very large.

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Can't recommend Abinger highly enough.

 

Hired a biggie from them for a concert at HT in Guildford (Langlais mass) and it was excellent. Then wanted a long term lend while our organ being refurbished. They actually suggested buying one from them, which we did, and sold a year later for the same price we bought it for (worked out ten grand cheaper than hiring from one of the big names). They even let us have a few extra speakers as the church was very large.

 

I am just trying to get my head around these figures. I needed to hire one for 12 months and the figure quoted by one of the big firms was £4,100 inc vat and delivery. We would have been hard pressed to have saved ten grand by buying one.

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I am just trying to get my head around these figures. I needed to hire one for 12 months and the figure quoted by one of the big firms was £4,100 inc vat and delivery. We would have been hard pressed to have saved ten grand by buying one.

 

Well, if your hire quote was £10,000, and you bought an organ for x, and sold it at the end of the period for the same amount, then you've not spent anything, effectively. Hence saved £10k. Your quote might be for a smaller organ, or an older spec, or fewer speakers, etc, etc.

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Well, if your hire quote was £10,000, and you bought an organ for x, and sold it at the end of the period for the same amount, then you've not spent anything, effectively. Hence saved £10k. Your quote might be for a smaller organ, or an older spec, or fewer speakers, etc, etc.

 

That's very true of course. For the record, the toaster I hired was three years old, 50 drawstops, 3 manuals, 3 kw of amplification and 24 loudspeakers, sufficient to fill a 900 seater building.

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That's very true of course. For the record, the toaster I hired was three years old, 50 drawstops, 3 manuals, 3 kw of amplification and 24 loudspeakers, sufficient to fill a 900 seater building.

 

!!! 3kw? That's insane!

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!!! 3kw? That's insane!

 

That's only 125 w per speaker. My Hi Fi is 250 w per channel, so half a Kw in total.

 

Added/Edited as it didn’t come across well. I was trying to point out that 3Kw of amplification for a large building isn’t that much. If you have a 7.1 surround sound home cinema system with 250 w per channel, then that’s 2Kw, and that’s in a domestic environment.

 

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David - I have a 3 manual 58 stop Wyvern Digital organ (1 year old) which I hire out. It has an ecletic spec. which was recently used by Romsey Choral Society for the Bernstein Chichester Psalms and the O'Regan Dorchester Canticles. It was also used by the Swindon Choral Society for the Widor Messe for two organs and choirs (op.36)

 

It has an extensive audio array with 2200W RMS and 13 speaker cabinets. i can arrange transport with no problem, and the organ is fully insured whilst out of my sight!!

 

BTW I am in Southampton

 

email me if it is any good to you!

 

organhire@aol.com

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I am just trying to get my head around these figures. I needed to hire one for 12 months and the figure quoted by one of the big firms was £4,100 inc vat and delivery. We would have been hard pressed to have saved ten grand by buying one.

 

OK, slight exaggeration in that it was nine grand. We had a quote for £12.5k with no flexibility, ie if the rebuild for some reason ran over time, there would be extra to pay on top. We paid £3k for a Rogers Scarborough (forgot the exact model number) which we sold for the same at the end. With one of the 'biggies', we were given the option of putting a quote with one of their adverts 'best thing since sliced bread', 'don't know why we're spending nearly half a mill on a pipe organ when we could have one of these for a fraction' kind of thing'. I politely declined.

 

PS Still listen to the excellent Advent disc you did at Marlb with Priory, and we bought a couple of the carols on the back of it!

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OK, slight exaggeration in that it was nine grand. We had a quote for £12.5k with no flexibility, ie if the rebuild for some reason ran over time, there would be extra to pay on top. We paid £3k for a Rogers Scarborough (forgot the exact model number) which we sold for the same at the end. With one of the 'biggies', we were given the option of putting a quote with one of their adverts 'best thing since sliced bread', 'don't know why we're spending nearly half a mill on a pipe organ when we could have one of these for a fraction' kind of thing'. I politely declined.

 

PS Still listen to the excellent Advent disc you did at Marlb with Priory, and we bought a couple of the carols on the back of it!

 

I guess I've got to concede defeat here as you clearly saved a fair amount of money with the Rogers Scarborough. I was just conscious of the need for quite a bit of amplification which I had been warned would be expensive. Perhaps you might like to PM me with the name of the company who asked £12.5k.

 

I'm interested in the half a mill you mention on the pipe organ. Where is it, and what did you have done? Or is this a thread which I have missed.

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Many thanks to all for responses, emails and private messages, which I'll be ploughing through in the next few days once I've heard from the head of department what we're going to do. Very grateful to all who have got in touch.

 

D

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