Westgate Morris Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 Quick question. Does the actual sound of a 16' pedal reed come out the top of the resonator (full length)? If you were sitting next to the boot - what do you hear? It has been a long time since I was in a real organ when someone was playing. WM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Patrick Coleman Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 Quick question. Does the actual sound of a 16' pedal reed come out the top of the resonator (full length)? If you were sitting next to the boot - what do you hear? It has been a long time since I was in a real organ when someone was playing.WM Our Trombone and Choir Trumpet are so loud it's hard to identify the source of the sound - and I'm afraid to negotiate the ladder and board to hear the Contrafagotto on the Swell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westgate Morris Posted September 12, 2007 Author Share Posted September 12, 2007 Oh thanks, that helps. WM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Patrick Coleman Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 Oh thanks, that helps.WM So glad to be of assistance - service with a smile! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cynic Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 Quick question. Does the actual sound of a 16' pedal reed come out the top of the resonator (full length)? If you were sitting next to the boot - what do you hear? It has been a long time since I was in a real organ when someone was playing.WM Near the boot I expect you would hear more rattle than proper tone. The whole pipe produces tone, so placing you ear by the resonator would give you quite a bit, but the real power comes out at the top and from it. Anyone who has tuned chorus reed pipes by standing over them rather than standing by the side will have experienced severe discomfort from so-doing. It is unwise for anyone without ear-protection of some kind to tune genuine Tubas. [in case others ask, one usually stands some distance below chamades with a long iron to tune these. Even my little home-made ones on 3" pressure used to be seriously loud when heard 'head on'!] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
contrabordun Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 a long iron to tune these. Presumably to smoothen the tone out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cynic Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 Presumably to smoothen the tone out? Sorry if this was unclear - I should have used the term 'reed knife'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vox Humana Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 Pity. I had a vision of you standing there making periodic lunges at the chamades with a golf club in one hand and a wooden chair in the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Psalm 78 v.67 Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 There are Chamades, and then there are pcnd's Chamades! From whence does one tune the latter? Christchurch? Bournemouth? Ringwood? Blandford Forum? Dorchester? A boat in the English Channel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcnd5584 Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 Pity. I had a vision of you standing there making periodic lunges at the chamades with a golf club in one hand and a wooden chair in the other. Hmmm.... 'Extreme Tuning'. Well, it does sound more interesting than 'Extreme Ironing'. Although I doubt that it would become an Olympic event in the near future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcnd5584 Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 God, I hate school computers - they are so slow.... This is the second day in a row in which I have managed to duplicate posts. Grrr....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcnd5584 Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 There are Chamades, and then there are pcnd's Chamades! From whence does one tune the latter? Christchurch? Bournemouth? Ringwood? Blandford Forum? Dorchester? A boat in the English Channel? Har! Har! No - partly from below (for the basses), standing just in front of the Pedal Mixture and Nachthorn and (for the trebles), hanging down through a trapdoor in the roof over the instrument. For the record, I use a standard reed knife. And, yes, it is still very loud there. The worst part is trying to find the *%$£~# pipes. The rank was arranged to look visually (and possibly aurally....) arresting - not for convenience of maintenance. It also becomes harmonic early on, so that F18 is rather longer than C13, for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusingMuso Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 Near the boot I expect you would hear more rattle than proper tone.The whole pipe produces tone, so placing you ear by the resonator would give you quite a bit, but the real power comes out at the top and from it. Anyone who has tuned chorus reed pipes by standing over them rather than standing by the side will have experienced severe discomfort from so-doing. It is unwise for anyone without ear-protection of some kind to tune genuine Tubas. [in case others ask, one usually stands some distance below chamades with a long iron to tune these. Even my little home-made ones on 3" pressure used to be seriously loud when heard 'head on'!] ========================= Oh aye! I recall tuning a Wurlitzer Post Horn on 15" pressure and voiced fairly flat-out, with all those little exponentially flared-brass resonators poking up towards the ear-drums! I recall thinking that in octaves, it was the sort of sound one would normally hear just before being destroyed by a very large, American truck! Horrendous! MM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcnd5584 Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 There are Chamades, and then there are pcnd's Chamades! From whence does one tune the latter? Christchurch? Bournemouth? Ringwood? Blandford Forum? Dorchester? A boat in the English Channel? Out of interest, have you heard them 'live'? I was just wondering.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre Lauwers Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 "A boat in the English Channel?" (Quote) Rather a submarine ? Pierre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Psalm 78 v.67 Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 Out of interest, have you heard them 'live'? I was just wondering.... Obviously - I live in the south of England! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcnd5584 Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 Obviously - I live in the south of England! I do not believe that I was aware of this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcnd5584 Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 "A boat in the English Channel?"(Quote) Rather a submarine ? Pierre I would rather have my Chamades than those nasty honking Tuba stops any day. So there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJJ Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 God, I hate school computers - they are so slow.... This is the second day in a row in which I have managed to duplicate posts. Grrr....... Ha! - I've just been bought a new one and the 'techies' have just installed it. 'Fantastic machine - very fast and it gets the 'Mander channel' too - I had to get the NPOR unblocked though as the system thought it was unacceptable or rude or something. AJJ PS - Sorry - off topic but teaching types have to communicate sometimes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcnd5584 Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 Ha! - I've just been bought a new one and the 'techies' have just installed it. 'Fantastic machine - very fast and it gets the 'Mander channel' too - I had to get the NPOR unblocked though as the system thought it was unacceptable or rude or something. AJJ PS - Sorry - off topic but teaching types have to communicate sometimes Well, quite! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westgate Morris Posted September 15, 2007 Author Share Posted September 15, 2007 Thanks for all the 'great' replies! I emailed an organist (who posts here) and got a great reply. wm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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