OmegaConsort Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 35K a year and a free house, but only 1 day off in 7 -- reasonable remuneration for such commitment?... vocation has a part to play I would have thought? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveBarker77 Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 35K a year and a free house, but only 1 day off in 7 -- reasonable remuneration for such commitment?... I teach in school Monday to Friday, rehearse the choir Wednesday and Friday evenings, spend evenings sorting music lists, attending meetings, playing for mid-week 'specials' etc and playing services Sunday Morning and Evening... sounds like a holiday to me! Where do I apply to?! Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbouffant Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 vocation has a part to play I would have thought? Interesting thought - I guess it depends on your circumstances but would that be enough to allow one to indulge one's vocation? We all have to pay the bills! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmegaConsort Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Interesting thought - I guess it depends on your circumstances but would that be enough to allow one to indulge one's vocation? We all have to pay the bills! Well...say your mortgage is £800 per month (some are more some are less, but stick to that), that adds £9,600 per year (after tax, so you would have to "earn" around £13,500 before tax to pay that). Whilst DoM at Blackburn assuming you have no property of your own elsewhere to maintain, you package income would be £47,500 PA. I imagine you could add recital income to this and a few other earners such as the local choral society, one or two private pupils etc, I imagine it would top out at £50,000 or so. I don't think that is a bad salary for doing something you most likely love and get a great deal of personal satisfaction out of....also, unless I am wrong, the cost of living in Lancs is a little less than down here in Hertfordshire!! Best wishes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
contrabordun Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Presumably though, the 'free' accommodation is a taxable benefit, thus taking another £2-3k OFF your net from the £35k? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Coram Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Interesting thought - I guess it depends on your circumstances but would that be enough to allow one to indulge one's vocation? We all have to pay the bills! The basic salary, not including the house, would double my earnings for the past year - which include a major church job, three regular choral societies and about half a dozen occasional ones, concerts, CD sales, rental income on a property, university teaching, organ building and political work. I'd say it was a stupendous salary. I'm glad I don't have your bills! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Newnham Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Presumably though, the 'free' accommodation is a taxable benefit, thus taking another £2-3k OFF your net from the £35k? Hi It's not axable if the Revenue can be persuaded that you need to live their to do the job properly - as with clergy. Every Blessing Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msw Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 35K a year and a free house, but only 1 day off in 7 -- reasonable remuneration for such commitment?... I'm not sure if the outgoing DoM has an allowance, but I'm fairly sure he owns his house, so this appears to be a new part of the package. Certainly, in the 13 years he's been at Blackburn, the job has grown vastly, with 10 Choirs to run where once there were just two or three - to say nothing of the year-long professional concert series that has partly grown out of the organ rebuild, nor of the many Musical Outreach projects now essential to maintaining the Cathedral's musical life and strengthening its overall role within the community. Furthermore the Cathedral is developing a new Close in its precincts which is intended to include accommodation for clergy and the key members of lay staff, including the DoM, Organists and Choral Scholars. Providing a house or housing allowance is very likely an interim measure until the Close project is completed, at which point the Music Staff will all be required to "live in." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest drd Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 I'm not sure if the outgoing DoM has an allowance, but I'm fairly sure he owns his house, so this appears to be a new part of the package. Certainly, in the 13 years he's been at Blackburn, the job has grown vastly, with 10 Choirs to run where once there were just two or three - to say nothing of the year-long professional concert series that has partly grown out of the organ rebuild, nor of the many Musical Outreach projects now essential to maintaining the Cathedral's musical life and strengthening its overall role within the community. Furthermore the Cathedral is developing a new Close in its precincts which is intended to include accommodation for clergy and the key members of lay staff, including the DoM, Organists and Choral Scholars. Providing a house or housing allowance is very likely an interim measure until the Close project is completed, at which point the Music Staff will all be required to "live in." Exactly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveHarries Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 At the end of the BBC Radio 3 Choral Evensong repeat on Sunday afternoon - the repeat of last Wednesday's broadcast from Eton - the announcer said that the director of music, Ralph Allwood, is leaving in September after 26 years in the job. Does anyone know if any decision been made as to who will succeed Mr. Allwood? Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Cooke Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 At the end of the BBC Radio 3 Choral Evensong repeat on Sunday afternoon - the repeat of last Wednesday's broadcast from Eton - the announcer said that the director of music, Ralph Allwood, is leaving in September after 26 years in the job. Does anyone know if any decision been made as to who will succeed Mr. Allwood? Dave Yes, it's Tim Johnson, currently Director of Music at Westminster School. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peeweeel Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 Yes, it's Tim Johnson, currently Director of Music at Westminster School. Ralph Allwood's brother, Peter, is resigning as Head of Lichfield Cathedral School in July in order to do other things, I think mainly musical. Perhaps an Allwood brothers business? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Walker Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 I believe that Ben Chewter from Lincoln cathedral is going to be the new no.2 at Chester. Ian Roberts departed to go to Ranmoor Parish Church in March. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DHM Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 I see Blackburn Cathedral music is up for grabs - the present incumbent seemingly bound for Greenwich! Is anybody at liberty to comment on what did, or didn't, happen at Blackburn last week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hector5 Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 Is anybody at liberty to comment on what did, or didn't, happen at Blackburn last week? Sorry?????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hector5 Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 Sorry?????????? Strike that - I've found what you were talking about. Some big shoes to fill methinks H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolsey Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 DHM's post is misleading, as "the present incumbent" went last month, and there is an Acting Director of Music - to whom I thought DHM was referring. The Chapter felt unable to appoint a successor from those who applied; it can happen. I feel uneasy, however, about all this being discussed on a public forum while the process of appointment is being repeated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DHM Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 DHM's post is misleading, as "the present incumbent" went last month, and there is an Acting Director of Music - to whom I thought DHM was referring. The Chapter felt unable to appoint a successor from those who applied; it can happen. I feel uneasy, however, about all this being discussed on a public forum while the process of appointment is being repeated. Apologies if my enquiry offended or embarrassed anyone. I deliberately kept it vague to avoid that happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DHM Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 An interesting job for someone.... http://www.holytrinitygeneva.org/documents...AdvertMusic.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveHarries Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 Is anybody at liberty to comment on what did, or didn't, happen at Blackburn last week? Please could someone enlighten me on this one? I have not heard of whatever is being referred to and have tried to send a PM to DHM but his inbox is full. Thanks. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DHM Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 ...have tried to send a PM to DHM but his inbox is full. Thanks. Dave Inbox now half-empty. Apologies for inconvenience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinwgc Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 DHM's post is misleading, as "the present incumbent" went last month, and there is an Acting Director of Music - to whom I thought DHM was referring. The Chapter felt unable to appoint a successor from those who applied; it can happen. I feel uneasy, however, about all this being discussed on a public forum while the process of appointment is being repeated. From All Saints', Hertford website: “Following the appointment of Sam Hudson as Director of Music at Blackburn Cathedral we are seeking a replacement Assistant Director of Music.” See http://www.allsaintshertford.org/orgs.htm RAC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgp Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 From All Saints', Hertford website: “Following the appointment of Sam Hudson as Director of Music at Blackburn Cathedral we are seeking a replacement Assistant Director of Music.”See http://www.allsaintshertford.org/orgs.htm RAC Great news for Sam and Becs - we're delighted for them, they deserve it. If anyone's interested, at least two of his jobs are up for grabs Haileybury College Organist and ADoM at All Saints Hertford MGP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S_L Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 It was part of the weekly bulletin this week that Timothy Noon is to leave the Metropolitan Cathedral in Liverpool for a similar post at Auckland Cathedral in New Zealand in September. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Drinkell Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 It was part of the weekly bulletin this week that Timothy Noon is to leave the Metropolitan Cathedral in Liverpool for a similar post at Auckland Cathedral in New Zealand in September. Out of interest, I've just looked up their May Music List. Lots of nice stuff, but I was amused to see a composer called Sir Peter Walford Davies An interesting blend, but since the piece was 'Blessed are the pure in heart', I think the 'Peter' should have been 'Henry'. Also, Bunnett in F is listed for a weekday (girls') Evensong. 'Dear old Bunnett in F' as Harriet Wimsey calls it in 'Busman's Honeymoon'. How many of us remember that one? And how many of us know that there's a strret named after Bunnett in Norwich? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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