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35K a year and a free house, but only 1 day off in 7 -- reasonable remuneration for such commitment?...

 

 

vocation has a part to play I would have thought?

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35K a year and a free house, but only 1 day off in 7 -- reasonable remuneration for such commitment?...

I teach in school Monday to Friday, rehearse the choir Wednesday and Friday evenings, spend evenings sorting music lists, attending meetings, playing for mid-week 'specials' etc and playing services Sunday Morning and Evening... sounds like a holiday to me! Where do I apply to?! :lol:

 

Steve :P

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vocation has a part to play I would have thought?

Interesting thought - I guess it depends on your circumstances but would that be enough to allow one to indulge one's vocation? We all have to pay the bills!

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Interesting thought - I guess it depends on your circumstances but would that be enough to allow one to indulge one's vocation? We all have to pay the bills!

 

 

Well...say your mortgage is £800 per month (some are more some are less, but stick to that), that adds £9,600 per year (after tax, so you would have to "earn" around £13,500 before tax to pay that). Whilst DoM at Blackburn assuming you have no property of your own elsewhere to maintain, you package income would be £47,500 PA. I imagine you could add recital income to this and a few other earners such as the local choral society, one or two private pupils etc, I imagine it would top out at £50,000 or so.

 

I don't think that is a bad salary for doing something you most likely love and get a great deal of personal satisfaction out of....also, unless I am wrong, the cost of living in Lancs is a little less than down here in Hertfordshire!!

 

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Interesting thought - I guess it depends on your circumstances but would that be enough to allow one to indulge one's vocation? We all have to pay the bills!

 

The basic salary, not including the house, would double my earnings for the past year - which include a major church job, three regular choral societies and about half a dozen occasional ones, concerts, CD sales, rental income on a property, university teaching, organ building and political work. I'd say it was a stupendous salary. I'm glad I don't have your bills!

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Presumably though, the 'free' accommodation is a taxable benefit, thus taking another £2-3k OFF your net from the £35k?

 

Hi

 

It's not axable if the Revenue can be persuaded that you need to live their to do the job properly - as with clergy.

 

Every Blessing

 

Tony

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35K a year and a free house, but only 1 day off in 7 -- reasonable remuneration for such commitment?...

 

I'm not sure if the outgoing DoM has an allowance, but I'm fairly sure he owns his house, so this appears to be a new part of the package. Certainly, in the 13 years he's been at Blackburn, the job has grown vastly, with 10 Choirs to run where once there were just two or three - to say nothing of the year-long professional concert series that has partly grown out of the organ rebuild, nor of the many Musical Outreach projects now essential to maintaining the Cathedral's musical life and strengthening its overall role within the community. Furthermore the Cathedral is developing a new Close in its precincts which is intended to include accommodation for clergy and the key members of lay staff, including the DoM, Organists and Choral Scholars. Providing a house or housing allowance is very likely an interim measure until the Close project is completed, at which point the Music Staff will all be required to "live in."

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I'm not sure if the outgoing DoM has an allowance, but I'm fairly sure he owns his house, so this appears to be a new part of the package. Certainly, in the 13 years he's been at Blackburn, the job has grown vastly, with 10 Choirs to run where once there were just two or three - to say nothing of the year-long professional concert series that has partly grown out of the organ rebuild, nor of the many Musical Outreach projects now essential to maintaining the Cathedral's musical life and strengthening its overall role within the community. Furthermore the Cathedral is developing a new Close in its precincts which is intended to include accommodation for clergy and the key members of lay staff, including the DoM, Organists and Choral Scholars. Providing a house or housing allowance is very likely an interim measure until the Close project is completed, at which point the Music Staff will all be required to "live in."

 

Exactly!

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At the end of the BBC Radio 3 Choral Evensong repeat on Sunday afternoon - the repeat of last Wednesday's broadcast from Eton - the announcer said that the director of music, Ralph Allwood, is leaving in September after 26 years in the job.

 

Does anyone know if any decision been made as to who will succeed Mr. Allwood?

 

Dave

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At the end of the BBC Radio 3 Choral Evensong repeat on Sunday afternoon - the repeat of last Wednesday's broadcast from Eton - the announcer said that the director of music, Ralph Allwood, is leaving in September after 26 years in the job.

 

Does anyone know if any decision been made as to who will succeed Mr. Allwood?

 

Dave

 

Yes, it's Tim Johnson, currently Director of Music at Westminster School.

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Yes, it's Tim Johnson, currently Director of Music at Westminster School.

 

Ralph Allwood's brother, Peter, is resigning as Head of Lichfield Cathedral School in July in order to do other things, I think mainly musical. Perhaps an Allwood brothers business?

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I believe that Ben Chewter from Lincoln cathedral is going to be the new no.2 at Chester. Ian Roberts departed to go to Ranmoor Parish Church in March.

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I see Blackburn Cathedral music is up for grabs - the present incumbent seemingly bound for Greenwich!

Is anybody at liberty to comment on what did, or didn't, happen at Blackburn last week?

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Is anybody at liberty to comment on what did, or didn't, happen at Blackburn last week?

 

Sorry??????????

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Sorry??????????

 

Strike that - I've found what you were talking about.

 

Some big shoes to fill methinks

 

H

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DHM's post is misleading, as "the present incumbent" went last month, and there is an Acting Director of Music - to whom I thought DHM was referring. The Chapter felt unable to appoint a successor from those who applied; it can happen. I feel uneasy, however, about all this being discussed on a public forum while the process of appointment is being repeated.

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DHM's post is misleading, as "the present incumbent" went last month, and there is an Acting Director of Music - to whom I thought DHM was referring. The Chapter felt unable to appoint a successor from those who applied; it can happen. I feel uneasy, however, about all this being discussed on a public forum while the process of appointment is being repeated.

Apologies if my enquiry offended or embarrassed anyone. I deliberately kept it vague to avoid that happening.

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Is anybody at liberty to comment on what did, or didn't, happen at Blackburn last week?

Please could someone enlighten me on this one? I have not heard of whatever is being referred to and have tried to send a PM to DHM but his inbox is full.

 

Thanks.

Dave

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...have tried to send a PM to DHM but his inbox is full.

 

Thanks.

Dave

Inbox now half-empty. Apologies for inconvenience.

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DHM's post is misleading, as "the present incumbent" went last month, and there is an Acting Director of Music - to whom I thought DHM was referring. The Chapter felt unable to appoint a successor from those who applied; it can happen. I feel uneasy, however, about all this being discussed on a public forum while the process of appointment is being repeated.

 

From All Saints', Hertford website: “Following the appointment of Sam Hudson as Director of Music at Blackburn Cathedral we are seeking a replacement Assistant Director of Music.”

See http://www.allsaintshertford.org/orgs.htm

 

RAC

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From All Saints', Hertford website: “Following the appointment of Sam Hudson as Director of Music at Blackburn Cathedral we are seeking a replacement Assistant Director of Music.”

See http://www.allsaintshertford.org/orgs.htm

 

RAC

Great news for Sam and Becs - we're delighted for them, they deserve it.

 

If anyone's interested, at least two of his jobs are up for grabs Haileybury College Organist and ADoM at All Saints Hertford

 

MGP

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It was part of the weekly bulletin this week that Timothy Noon is to leave the Metropolitan Cathedral in Liverpool for a similar post at Auckland Cathedral in New Zealand in September.

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It was part of the weekly bulletin this week that Timothy Noon is to leave the Metropolitan Cathedral in Liverpool for a similar post at Auckland Cathedral in New Zealand in September.

 

 

Out of interest, I've just looked up their May Music List. Lots of nice stuff, but I was amused to see a composer called

Sir Peter Walford Davies

 

An interesting blend, but since the piece was 'Blessed are the pure in heart', I think the 'Peter' should have been 'Henry'.

 

Also, Bunnett in F is listed for a weekday (girls') Evensong. 'Dear old Bunnett in F' as Harriet Wimsey calls it in 'Busman's Honeymoon'. How many of us remember that one? And how many of us know that there's a strret named after Bunnett in Norwich?

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