andyorgan Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 As the Trotter topic got rather hijacked, here's an opportunity to share what you play, and those in the previous thread who clearly don't approve don't have to read and contribute. As sometimes these things are hard to get hold of (as we don't always know whats out there), we could share publishers if we needed to... Here's a selection from my repertoire at the moment to get the ball rolling: Handel; Overture to the Occasional Oratorio (arr me) Tchaikovsky; Selection from Nutcracker (arr Friebel/me) Strauss: Overture to Die Fledermaus (arr me) Saint Saens; movements from Carnival of Animals (arr some Russian woman I can't remember) Bizet; Carmen (Lemare) Coates; various Bach; Badinerie (arr Murray, v tricky!) Elgar: Chanson de matin/nuit (arr Brewer) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfortin Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 I have some overlap with the previous list, plus many others including:- Faure - Pavanne Elgar - Imperial March Elgar - "2nd organ sonata" Walton - Crown Imperial Wagner - Grand March from Tanhauser Verdi - Grand March from Aida Sousa - Liberty Bell Sousa - Washington Post Holzman - Blaze Away Mendelssohn - War March of the Priests Coates - Dam Busters March Plus, of course, most of the wedding processionals and recessionals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyorgan Posted November 6, 2007 Author Share Posted November 6, 2007 Yes, I'd forgotten about the Walton, its a good little book that OUP one. I do both the Coronation Marches, Orb and Sceptre is much easier in that arrangement than the McKie version that OUP used to publish! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cynic Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 Oh well..... proud to play transcriptions so here goes! 1. Regular published versions Elgar/various: (standard versions) Bach/Dupre: Sinfonias from Cantatas 29 and 146 Bach/Harvey Grace - several familiar movements G.Handel/various - familiar movements Handel: Overture to the Occassional Oratorio - W.T.Best Handel: Organ Concertos - C.S.Lang and John Dykes Bower Misc Concertos - J.G.Walther Faure: Pavane - Husson Ravel: Prelude pour une infante defunte - Llewellyn Green Tchaikovsky- various mostly Goss Custard or Lemare Schubert/Wagner/Bizet/Brahms etc. - Lemare Walton (as above) Mendelssohn: War March of the Priests - Brown Pachelbel: 'Canon' easy version by Frank Brown and an amazing French version (forgotten the arranger's name) I'm sure I've forgotten a few. 2. My own versions Mendelssohn: Scherzo Midsummer Nights' Dream Warlock: Capriol Suite Hindemith: Symphonic Metamorphoses Sousa: Liberty Bell Leroy Anderson: Sleigh Ride Simon: Bridge over troubled water Various Bach bits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusingMuso Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 I don't play many transcriptions on the classical organ; Handel's and Bach's music excepted.....such nice tunes! However, at the theatre organ, it is stock-in-trade to transcribe on the hoof, and often purely by ear. That's all part of the fun, and the better one gets at it, the more creative one becomes until one is into the realm of the special re-arranger. To hear Simon Gledhill playing a "Beatles" classic in the jazz style of Bryan Rodwell was a bit special. I think it was on "The organist entertains" last week. I once went to the extraordinary lengths of writing out a transcription of the whole of the William Tell Overture, by Rossini....it took about 6 weeks in total. Then I made a mess of it! :angry: Apart from the more obvious Bach and Handel, I also play my own arrangement of the C P E Bach "Solfeggio," which works rather well. It was quite fun adding a lot of new material to this solo violin work. Of course........I do frown on arrangements, I hope you understand. MM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Barry Williams Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 Mr Bach made transcriptions of his own works and, in all probability, played them. Handel transcribed the eight part Fugue from C H Rinck, transposing a tone and thoroughly stealing the copyright. That was naughty as he did not acknowledge the original. Barry Williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Morley Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 I have never understood why people (or should I say organists) get so sniffy about organ transcriptions. Arranging and re-arranging music for other instrumental/vocal forces is a perfectly natural and respectable process. After all… · I’d like to hazard a guess that even Prof. Peter Williams does not fly into a rage at the mention of the Busoni piano arrangement of JSB’s Chaconne. · Stravinsky’s own transcription of ‘Petrouchka’ or the various orchestrations of Mussorgsky’s piano works by Rimsky-Korsakov and Ravel are not considered musical travesties. · Barber’s arrangement of his ‘Adagio for Strings’ to the words of the ‘Agnus Dei’ might be a bit kitsch, but it’s still effective music. · Webern’s orchestration of JSB’s Ricecare has to be one of the most remarkable works of the entire 20th century, and gives us mere mortals a unique insight into the minds of two towering geniuses. · The jazz improvisations of Jacques Loussier Trio – wonderful stuff. ...and so on... Also, I don’t imagine anyone getting upset when organ music is transcribed for other foerces. Mind you, if I was given the choice between playing Boellman’s Toccata at Notre Dame, and conducting Foden’s in a performance of the brass band transcription, I’m not sure that I would necessarily be getting my passport out of the drawer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Coram Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 It should be added that Peter Warlock's Capriol Suite, readily available in a solo piano arrangement, transfers extremely well to the organ and the ability to take some of the left hand parts in the pedals overcomes a lot of the technical challenges making most of it a lot more straightforward than it at first appears. The one exception is Bransles, which is a sod. Certain movements (particularly Pieds en l'Air) are absolutely ravishing with a nice thick 16 8 4 flutey registration, the Sw 2' peeping out from behind the shutters. The second movement (Pavane) is very effective with the left hand taking the 'drum' part on a nice fat Claribel Flute and also handling the inner melody for the second half. Both the first and last movements can be very exciting if the wind starts to get a bit unstable, which it does. Ahem, I wonder if there are any recordings of this shortly to become available...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heva Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 Bach's Air - as transcribed by Karg-Elert. Nice for christmas eve ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre Lauwers Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 Karg-Elert made absolutely splendid transcriptions from Bach, Händel, Liszt, Schubert....( The Ave Maria is a gem!). And after all, Bach himself made transcriptions for the organ ! See here: http://www.armelin.it/CollanaDO/014.htm (The sound clip is a nightmare. Replace those toaster's "mixtures" with three good english, tick Open Diapasons 8' togheter. It works well on a modern ecclectic italian organ too, with Principale 8' + Voce umana 8') Pierre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyorgan Posted November 7, 2007 Author Share Posted November 7, 2007 · I’d like to hazard a guess that even Prof. Peter Williams does not fly into a rage at the mention of the Busoni piano arrangement of JSB’s Chaconne. Funny you should mention that name, but even the great man has dabbled. I once turned pages for a recital and the performer played a transcription he had done of 'Die Meistersinger' Overture. It was rather good, sort of Westbrook with more countermelodies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Allison Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 Has anyone heard or seen Thomas Heywood playing his own transcription of Beethovens 5th (complete) on the Melbourne Town hall organ dvd ?? its rather nifty Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbouffant Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 I have that transcription of Dvorak's 9th symphony which is published by Barenreiter. That's nice, that is. I like Thos. Trotter's Sleigh Ride arrangement. Not too hairy!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Clark Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 I don't actually play many transcriptions but these are those which I dug out last night in response to the question: 4th Movement of Tchaikowsky 6 Mahler 5 (Adagietto) Wills' arrangement of three movements from The Planets TT's version of Anderson's Sleigh Ride (this seems to be popular here!) Strauss Also Sprach Zarathushtra: (this was at one stage my signature tune: I specialised in Zoroastrianism when I did an MPhil, and subsequently wrote a book on the topic though Nietzsche's character is nothing to do with the real prophet: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Zoroastrianism-Int...3133&sr=8-4 Buy one. Buy lots. I'm on royalties.) Insipred by someone on this forum I got the piano score of the theme of Thunderbirds by Barry Gray and have made an organ transcription of that (which changes every time I play it as I haven't actually written it out). I've also done an arrangement of Anderson's Penny Whistle Song which goes down quite well on a cold Sunday morning. Philip Glass Satyagraha is on order (OK I know I said I won't learn anything new for two months but still.....) Best wishes Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Sayer Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 I remember years ago seeing a German publisher's advertisement (Bärenreiter, or maybe Breitkopf) for an organ transcription of Johann Strauß's Blue Danube for organ duet, pedals only. It sound great fun, and I wish I'd ordered it at the time. Has anyone else come acroos it by an chance? JS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Carr Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 As the Trotter topic got rather hijacked, here's an opportunity to share what you play, and those in the previous thread who clearly don't approve don't have to read and contribute. As sometimes these things are hard to get hold of (as we don't always know whats out there), we could share publishers if we needed to... Ok, here goes, sorry not all the transcribers are there... March from "Egmont" - Beethoven/Carr Marche au Supplice (Symphonie Fantastique) - Berlioz Rákóczi March (from La Damnation de Faust) - Berlioz/Best Fantasia on Carmen - Bizet Pizzicato (from Sylvia) - Delibes Fanfare pour précéder "La Péri" - Dukas Hungarian Dance no.1 - Dvorak/Briggs Prelude and Angel's Farewell from The Dream of Gerontius - Elgar Pavane - Fauré Carol (from Five Bagatelles) - Finzi Forlana (from Five Bagatelles) - Finzi Peer Gynt Suite no 1 - Greig Alla Danza (Hornpipe) from The Water Music - Handel And the Glory of the Lord (from Messiah) - Handel Bouree, Minuet & Trio (Music for the Royal Fireworks) - Handel Finale from Concerto no.5 - Handel Hallelujah Chorus (Messiah) - Handel Largo - Handel Music for the Royal Fireworks: Bouree, Minuet & Trio, La Rejouissance - Handel Organ Concerto no 10 in D minor (1st & 2nd movement) - Handel Organ Concerto no 10 in D minor (2nd movement) - Handel Organ Concerto no 4 in F (1st movement) - Handel Overture to The Occasional Oratorio - Handel Sinfonia to Solomon "The Arrival of the Queen of Sheba" - Handel Two Marches: Judus Maccabaeus in G & Scipio in D - Handel Jupiter (The Bringer of Jollity) from The Planets - Holst Venus (The Bringer of Peace) from The Planets - Holst Adagio in D flat (Consolations) - Liszt Wedding March from A Midsummer Night's Dream – Mendelssohn (!!) Coronation March "Le Prophète" - Meyerbeer Bell Rondo - Morandi/Best Gopak - Moussorgsky/Carr Baba Yaga. The Hut on Fowl's Legs (from Pictures at an Exhibition) - Mussorgsky The Great Gate of Kiev (from Pictures at an Exhibition) - Mussorgsky Will o' the Wisp - Nevin Canon in D - Pachelbel March from "The Birds of Aristophanes" - Parry March from "The Love of Three Oranges" - Prokofiev/Guillou Rondeau from Abdelazer - Purcell Vocalise - Rachmaninoff/Carr Daphnis et Chloé - Ravel/Briggs Rigaudon from Le tombeau de Couperin - Ravel/Carr Flight of the Bumble Bee - Rimsky-Korsakov Overture to The Thieving Magpie – Rossini/Heywood Overture to William Tell - Rossini Danse Macabre - Saint-Saëns The Swan - Saint-Saëns Finale from The Organ Symphony - Saint-Saëns/Briggs Gymnopédie I - Satie Ave Maria - Schubert March Militaire - Schubert Träumerei - Schumann / Guilmant Finlandia - Sibelius Alla Marcia from Karelia-Suite - Sibelius Intermezzo from Karelia-Suite - Sibelius Minué from Concerto no. 6 - Soler Radetzky March - Strauss Die Fledermaus Overture - Strauss/Carr The Lost Chord - Sullivan Overture to Poet and Peasant - Suppé La Danserie - Susato/Carr The Nutcracker Suite - Tchaikovsky Grand March (from "Aïda") - di Grand March (from "Tannhäuser") - Wagner Introduction to Act III "Lohengrin" - Wagner Isolden's Liebestod from Tristan and Isolde - Wagner Overture: "Die Meistersinger von Nürnberg" - Wagner Ride of the Valkarie - Wagner The Bridal Chorus – Wagner (!!) Pilgrims Chorus - Wagner The Skaters' Waltz - Waldteufel Alla Marcia (from Music for Children) - Walton Coronation March 1937; Crown Imperial - Walton Coronation March 1953; Orb and Sceptre - Walton Popular Song (from Façade) - Walton Prologue (from A Wartime Sketchbook) - Walton Spitfire Prelude (from The First of the Few) - Walton Suite from 'Henry V' - Walton I think that's about all... P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazman Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 Has anyone heard or seen Thomas Heywood playing his own transcription of Beethovens 5th (complete) on the Melbourne Town hall organ dvd ?? its rather niftyPeter Agreed! Wasn't/isn't he also transcribing the other symphonies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyorgan Posted November 8, 2007 Author Share Posted November 8, 2007 I remember years ago seeing a German publisher's advertisement (Bärenreiter, or maybe Breitkopf) for an organ transcription of Johann Strauß's Blue Danube for organ duet, pedals only. It sound great fun, and I wish I'd ordered it at the time. Has anyone else come acroos it by an chance? JS I have the book, it is great fun. There are one or two other pedal only pieces in there which are good for the technique, not sure about using them in a recital. Audiences would only appreciate how difficult they are if they can see you. I'll try and dig it out and give you the title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cynic Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 Ok, here goes, sorry not all the transcribers are there... March from "Egmont" - Beethoven/Carr Marche au Supplice (Symphonie Fantastique) - Berlioz Rákóczi March (from La Damnation de Faust) - Berlioz/Best Fantasia on Carmen - Bizet Pizzicato (from Sylvia) - Delibes Fanfare pour précéder "La Péri" - Dukas Hungarian Dance no.1 - Dvorak/Briggs Prelude and Angel's Farewell from The Dream of Gerontius - Elgar Pavane - Fauré Carol (from Five Bagatelles) - Finzi Forlana (from Five Bagatelles) - Finzi Peer Gynt Suite no 1 - Greig Alla Danza (Hornpipe) from The Water Music - Handel And the Glory of the Lord (from Messiah) - Handel Bouree, Minuet & Trio (Music for the Royal Fireworks) - Handel Finale from Concerto no.5 - Handel Hallelujah Chorus (Messiah) - Handel Largo - Handel Music for the Royal Fireworks: Bouree, Minuet & Trio, La Rejouissance - Handel Organ Concerto no 10 in D minor (1st & 2nd movement) - Handel Organ Concerto no 10 in D minor (2nd movement) - Handel Organ Concerto no 4 in F (1st movement) - Handel Overture to The Occasional Oratorio - Handel Sinfonia to Solomon "The Arrival of the Queen of Sheba" - Handel Two Marches: Judus Maccabaeus in G & Scipio in D - Handel Jupiter (The Bringer of Jollity) from The Planets - Holst Venus (The Bringer of Peace) from The Planets - Holst Adagio in D flat (Consolations) - Liszt Wedding March from A Midsummer Night's Dream – Mendelssohn (!!) Coronation March "Le Prophète" - Meyerbeer Bell Rondo - Morandi/Best Gopak - Moussorgsky/Carr Baba Yaga. The Hut on Fowl's Legs (from Pictures at an Exhibition) - Mussorgsky The Great Gate of Kiev (from Pictures at an Exhibition) - Mussorgsky Will o' the Wisp - Nevin Canon in D - Pachelbel March from "The Birds of Aristophanes" - Parry March from "The Love of Three Oranges" - Prokofiev/Guillou Rondeau from Abdelazer - Purcell Vocalise - Rachmaninoff/Carr Daphnis et Chloé - Ravel/Briggs Rigaudon from Le tombeau de Couperin - Ravel/Carr Flight of the Bumble Bee - Rimsky-Korsakov Overture to The Thieving Magpie – Rossini/Heywood Overture to William Tell - Rossini Danse Macabre - Saint-Saëns The Swan - Saint-Saëns Finale from The Organ Symphony - Saint-Saëns/Briggs Gymnopédie I - Satie Ave Maria - Schubert March Militaire - Schubert Träumerei - Schumann / Guilmant Finlandia - Sibelius Alla Marcia from Karelia-Suite - Sibelius Intermezzo from Karelia-Suite - Sibelius Minué from Concerto no. 6 - Soler Radetzky March - Strauss Die Fledermaus Overture - Strauss/Carr The Lost Chord - Sullivan Overture to Poet and Peasant - Suppé La Danserie - Susato/Carr The Nutcracker Suite - Tchaikovsky Grand March (from "Aïda") - di Grand March (from "Tannhäuser") - Wagner Introduction to Act III "Lohengrin" - Wagner Isolden's Liebestod from Tristan and Isolde - Wagner Overture: "Die Meistersinger von Nürnberg" - Wagner Ride of the Valkarie - Wagner The Bridal Chorus – Wagner (!!) Pilgrims Chorus - Wagner The Skaters' Waltz - Waldteufel Alla Marcia (from Music for Children) - Walton Coronation March 1937; Crown Imperial - Walton Coronation March 1953; Orb and Sceptre - Walton Popular Song (from Façade) - Walton Prologue (from A Wartime Sketchbook) - Walton Spitfire Prelude (from The First of the Few) - Walton Suite from 'Henry V' - Walton I think that's about all... P. Wow! ...and you play all these, Paul? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Carr Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 Wow! ...and you play all these, Paul? Yep. Trying to keep up with you! All have featured in a recital I've played at some time or other, although I'd need a bit of notice to wheel out the Briggs transcription of Ravel's Daphnis again, it's still almost unplayable in part even with plenty of practice. P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Allison Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 Agreed! Wasn't/isn't he also transcribing the other symphonies? I have heard that he is doing all nine, when they will be done and recorded, I do not know. Have you seen the dvd? he talks rather a lot Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cynic Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 Yep. Trying to keep up with you! All have featured in a recital I've played at some time or other, although I'd need a bit of notice to wheel out the Briggs transcription of Ravel's Daphnis again, it's almost unplayable in part with plenty of practice. P. I love it. Nothing snobby there! Actually, bringing off an elaborate transcription is easily as hard work as 'the (official) big works', don't you find? Unless you have someone else doing all the stop changes, of course. [No names, no pack drill!] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Carr Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 I love it. Nothing snobby there!Actually, bringing off an elaborate transcription is easily as hard work as 'the (official) big works', don't you find? Unless you have someone else doing all the stop changes, of course. [No names, no pack drill!] Absolutely - I think they probably take more practice overall, certainly they often need longer at the performance instrument as the registration schemes can be very complex. It took me just over three hours to register Daphnis at St Chad's Cathedral last year, using a mixture of generals (allowing quick use of the stepper) divisionals and a couple of hand registration changes. The copy has still got about three packs of post-it stickers all over it! P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazman Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 I have heard that he is doing all nine, when they will be done and recorded, I do not know. Have you seen the dvd? he talks rather a lot Peter Yes, he does. Incidentally, have you noticed him actually changing any of the registrations himself? I haven't! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyorgan Posted November 9, 2007 Author Share Posted November 9, 2007 I have heard that he is doing all nine, when they will be done and recorded, I do not know. Have you seen the dvd? he talks rather a lot Peter Huge fan that I am of transcriptions (hence the thread in the first place), I find myslef asking why Beethoven symphonies? TH is a great player and a real showman (technique to match) and he gave a great recital at my old place. But why the Beethoven symphonies? Am I missing something here? Agree about the registration issues. My two biggies (Lemare/Carmen and Die Fled/me) cry out for so much colour and I don't think I could do them effectively without generals (or long awkward pauses in between sections) Anyone currently working on anything new? I've got about half way through Bernstein's Candide having heard one of the big Americans doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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