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My Christmas treat was the Dover collection of transcriptions. A very ecletic collection, not sure I'll use over half of them, but 10 quid for 26 pieces, you can't go wrong. I'm giving the Karg-Elert/Harmonious Blacksmith and Bach Chaconne a wide berth, but a nice piece of Rubenstein, and some Gounod, Saint-Saens and a sprinkling of Wagner. Well worth the money.

 

PS: Mr B, I've nearly finished Candide, just a few passages where I need to experiment.

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Small scale but the Aubade from Prokofiev's Romeo and Juliet (John Lewis Christmas Advert) works well!

 

AJJ

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There is quite an effective recording of this arrangement played here by John Scott - an early Priory CD.

 

AJJ

 

 

Thanks Alastair. See you Sunday, about 9.30 am? :lol:

 

Peter

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Thanks Alastair. See you Sunday, about 9.30 am? :lol:

 

Peter

 

'Might be earlier - I'm due at church at 9.40.

 

A

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There's a transcription/arrangement of the Star Wars Main Theme in "Music from the Movies: The Organist Entertains book 3" (Ooops have I confessed too much about the music I own?) I used it after the morning service the last time I played for Hereford Cathedral School in 1992.

 

Paul,

 

Could you be very kind and let me know the publisher of that book ? I have tried to find it on Google, without success.

 

Just to finish the Star Wars theme, after my last posting, five minutes googling and an e mail got me in touch with Robert Edward Smith in America - a great harpsichordist and Bach scholar - who did the transcription of John Williams score for the CD.

 

He was the soul of charm and courtesy in his reply. He explained that he was commissioned to write the transcription by Warners, but the terms of the licence were extremely narrow. He was to transcribe the score for that recording alone, after which any licence to perform the transcription was revoked, so his transcription cannot be published (he no longer knows where it is) or performed by anyone else.

 

This seems very short - sighted. Having, as I say, watched all of the films now several times over the past few months, there is a great deal of superb music in them and an organ suite could be extremely effective. I would happily make one myself - the Cantina Band sequence would work fantastically well - except life is short, and clients in the office and a 6 year old at home seem to swallow up all my time.

 

On a similar subject, last weekend I took my little boy to a children's concert by the Guildford Philharmonic with a 'Dr Who' theme. It was a good idea, well presented, with a quite a lot of worthy but slightly dull music. To be honest, the best piece in the concert by a mile was the John Williams suite from Jurassic Park.

 

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Mark B

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'Star Wars' is on page 3 of 'The Organist Entertains' book 3, arranged by (the late) George Blackmore (FRCO) and published by International Music Publications 60/70 Roden Street Ilford.

 

This arrangment is only the main theme. However, it is quite easy to transcribe other parts of the music from the DVD if you need more than the four pages in this volume.

 

There are many other useful arrangements in the book such as the Bum Dusters, Exodus, The Third Man, Chariots of Fire, etc.

 

Barry Williams

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'Might be earlier - I'm due at church at 9.40.

 

A

 

 

Just played through the Finlandia, Alastair. Cracking stuff and not too taxing. OK, let's make it 9ish then. :lol:

 

 

Peter

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Thomas Heywood's CD of Melbourne deservedly got the Editor's Choice in Organist's Review, and it ranks as one of my all time favourite discs. I've met the guy and his wife in recital in London, and I must confess the idea of transcriptions took on a new life as a result. Why Beethoven? Because apparently no-one (I find hard to believe) has ever before transcriped all nine symphonies to organ. But he has the decency to publish them (very professionally, very clearly designed and well laid out) and I am slowly munching through V:

 

http://www.concertorgan.com/index.php?data...f2e9f589c5897da

 

I was once asked to play the Throne Room at a wedding too...it begins rather like the Mendlessohn Wedding March to add to the fun.

 

One of my favourites is Meyerbeer's Coronation March from Le Prophete, I think that's already been mentioned.

 

I once found a piano duet version of Rossini William Tell which without much difficulty transcribed easily onto organ (again for duet) and which I've had a lot of fun with, especially as one part is much harder than the other, so it's a good one to give to friends at short notice (I mean, letting them play the easier bass part).

 

Something I have wondered, maybe it's the height of bad taste, but are there any organ transcriptions of piano concertos, with the piano part retained? Petit Mess Sodinghel excepted, there's not much music written for piano and organ, but I sometimes wonder how one of the great piano concertos would sound with a pianist playing the piano part and an organist filling in for the orchestra. Has this ever been done?

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Something I have wondered, maybe it's the height of bad taste, but are there any organ transcriptions of piano concertos, with the piano part retained? Petit Mess Sodinghel excepted, there's not much music written for piano and organ, but I sometimes wonder how one of the great piano concertos would sound with a pianist playing the piano part and an organist filling in for the orchestra. Has this ever been done?

 

I remember something of this ilk back in the Seventies at York Minster when Francis Jackson played the slow movement of the Ravel piano concerto before Evensong with Geoffrey Coffin providing the orchestral accompaniment on the organ. Members of the chapter took their places beforehand wearing cassocks and at the end processed out to return fully robed for Evensong proper. FJ has always been a Ravel specialist and it was a memorable occasion.

 

JS

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Thomas Heywood's CD of Melbourne deservedly got the Editor's Choice in Organist's Review, and it ranks as one of my all time favourite discs. I've met the guy and his wife in recital in London, and I must confess the idea of transcriptions took on a new life as a result. Why Beethoven? Because apparently no-one (I find hard to believe) has ever before transcriped all nine symphonies to organ. But he has the decency to publish them (very professionally, very clearly designed and well laid out) and I am slowly munching through V:

 

http://www.concertorgan.com/index.php?data...f2e9f589c5897da

 

Yes, he's a good advocate for transcriptions. I bought a couple of his and they are well written, though not easy. I can recomend 'The Thieving Magpie' overture and the the Verdi overture he does. His wife is an excellent piston pusher.

 

 

I once found a piano duet version of Rossini William Tell which without much difficulty transcribed easily onto organ (again for duet) and which I've had a lot of fun with, especially as one part is much harder than the other, so it's a good one to give to friends at short notice (I mean, letting them play the easier bass part).

 

There's at least two good Wm Tell transcriptions. the Lemare is surprisingly playable in places (the repeated notes in the famous bit at the end are a struggle on an unresponsive action) and is in the original key of E. Then there's a Buck transcription in D, which has its tricky moments, but it feels wrong to play it in D though.

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Something I have wondered, maybe it's the height of bad taste, but are there any organ transcriptions of piano concertos, with the piano part retained? Petit Mess Sodinghel excepted, there's not much music written for piano and organ, but I sometimes wonder how one of the great piano concertos would sound with a pianist playing the piano part and an organist filling in for the orchestra. Has this ever been done?

 

I have an excellent disc of music for organ and piano from the big church in Boston (is it Holy Trinity?). There aren't any concertos, but there are a couple of original compositions (good set of variations by Dupre) and some transcriptions, very good Ride of the Valk.

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"I sometimes wonder how one of the great piano concertos would sound with a pianist playing the piano part and an organist filling in for the orchestra. Has this ever been done? "

 

I do not know of any published arrangments, but I have played several like this with a friend, alas now deceased. It was great fun, especially the Litolff Scherzo.

 

Barry Williams

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I have an excellent disc of music for organ and piano from the big church in Boston (is it Holy Trinity?). There aren't any concertos, but there are a couple of original compositions (good set of variations by Dupre) and some transcriptions, very good Ride of the Valk.

 

I seem to recall years ago playng an organ transcription of the Pilgrim's Chorus (Tanhausser). But I cannot for the life of me recall who did it, or even if it was an organ transcription at all, and not a piano transcription which I busked from. (I do remember playing it as a piano duet as a teenager). Does anyone know of such an arrangement?

 

Thanks

 

Peter

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I seem to recall years ago playng an organ transcription of the Pilgrim's Chorus (Tanhausser). But I cannot for the life of me recall who did it, or even if it was an organ transcription at all, and not a piano transcription which I busked from. (I do remember playing it as a piano duet as a teenager). Does anyone know of such an arrangement?

 

Thanks

 

Peter

 

 

There's an organ transcription, from memory either by Reginald Goss-Custard or Edwin H.Lemare in one of the Schott's coloured Albums.

It's good too. I believe that it's the version that Simon Preston used for one of his (terrific) early recordings.

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He was the soul of charm and courtesy in his reply. He explained that he was commissioned to write the transcription by Warners, but the terms of the licence were extremely narrow. He was to transcribe the score for that recording alone, after which any licence to perform the transcription was revoked, so his transcription cannot be published (he no longer knows where it is) or performed by anyone else.

 

At least you got a reply. I emailed a prominent US organist to enquire about a couple of transcriptions (Shostakovich Festival Overture, and Bernstein Candide), and still haven't heard back, a year later. I wouldn't even mind if he sent one saying, 'look, it took a lot of time to transcribe, why don't you do it yourself!'

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I seem to recall years ago playng an organ transcription of the Pilgrim's Chorus (Tanhausser).

There are also two arrangements of this by Liszt.

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[something I have wondered, maybe it's the height of bad taste, but are there any organ transcriptions of piano concertos, with the piano part retained? Petit Mess Sodinghel excepted, there's not much music written for piano and organ, but I sometimes wonder how one of the great piano concertos would sound with a pianist playing the piano part and an organist filling in for the orchestra. Has this ever been done?

 

 

It has certainly been done by theatre organists on recordings. In the 1930s Quentin Maclean recorded the Grieg taking both orchestral and solo parts himself, which must have been a considerable feat given the editing techniques (lack thereof) available at the time. More recently Jelani Edington has done the same thing on a CD entitled The Mighty Wurlitzer (RJE 2035) using the 4/38 Wurlitzer in Hardman Music Studio, Great Falls , Virginia. Large theatre organs of the American type which may well have more ranks of pipes than the average British organ clearly lend themselves to this. I have never heard of it being done live by two performers but are there not two brothers called Scott who are building something of a niche for themselves in combined piano and organ recitals ? Presumably if they have not done so already, they will be working towards something along this line.

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'Star Wars' is on page 3 of 'The Organist Entertains' book 3, arranged by (the late) George Blackmore (FRCO) and published by International Music Publications 60/70 Roden Street Ilford.

 

This arrangment is only the main theme. However, it is quite easy to transcribe other parts of the music from the DVD if you need more than the four pages in this volume.

 

There are many other useful arrangements in the book such as the Bum Dusters, Exodus, The Third Man, Chariots of Fire, etc.

 

Barry Williams

 

 

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Those old "Organist Entertains" albums are absolutely superb, and they must be one of the very few such collections of written down transcriptions. I have, sadly, only one of them, but the quality is a real eye-opener into the art of some really great theatre organists.

 

I'm not sure if they are still in print (I doubt it), but I do know that they are very sought after by enthusiasts.

 

MM

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Something I have wondered, maybe it's the height of bad taste, but are there any organ transcriptions of piano concertos, with the piano part retained? Petit Mess Sodinghel excepted, there's not much music written for piano and organ.....

JS

 

 

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Who has a copy of the Flor Peeters Concerto for Piano and Organ?

 

I have a copy, but I've never heard anyone play it beyond the recording issued of Ron and Mary Perrin from Ripon Cathedral.

 

It's worth learning and playing, I think.

 

MM

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[something I have wondered, maybe it's the height of bad taste, but are there any organ transcriptions of piano concertos, with the piano part retained? Petit Mess Sodinghel excepted, there's not much music written for piano and organ, but I sometimes wonder how one of the great piano concertos would sound with a pianist playing the piano part and an organist filling in for the orchestra. Has this ever been done?

A former DoM at my church has teamed up with a brilliant pianist to do just this. They did an all Mozart concert for us last year and will be doing Rachmaninov 2 on Feb 27th at 1.00 pm. More information here

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I seem to remember that last year Roger Fisher gave a recital in his home studio with its splendid 3 manual pipe organ and baby grand piano, with Roger playing the solo part of a couple of Mozart concertos (concerti ?) and Philip Rushforth playing the orchestral parts on the organ.

 

Also, I think that last year Roger Sayer and Wayne Marshall gave a similar concert at Rochester Cathedral with Roger playing the orchestral parts of the Gershwin Rhapsody in Blue on the organ, with Wayne Marshall playing the piano downstairs.

 

M

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This is something I've thought about quite a bit. There is a work by Dupré for organ and piano, when Gordon Stewart and Darius Battiwalla recorded at Huddersfield Town Hall on Foxglove - can't remember the title, but I don't find it very compelling, and I like Dupré!

 

I wouldn't have thought a piano concerto arranged for organ and piano to be in particularly bad taste, and would certainly offer a new way of hearing the organ.

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2. My own versions

 

 

Simon: Bridge over troubled water

 

The first "pop" song I really fell in love with! Paul is it written out? Have you done it at a recital?

 

MAB, where did you find you SW Throne Room March?

 

I have an arrangement of Over the Rainbow but I am not sure if I dare play it mixed in with Bach &c! (Though once I did play Movt 1 of L'ascension and Shearing's Lullaby of Birdland in the same programme!)

 

Peter

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I have an arrangement of Over the Rainbow but I am not sure if I dare play it mixed in with Bach &c! (Though once I did play Movt 1 of L'ascension and Shearing's Lullaby of Birdland in the same programme!)

 

Peter

I did last year! Played it as an encore in a couple of recitals that included the Bach G major among other things. Its a sort of home produced arrangement based on the Shearing version.

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