Pierre Lauwers Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 The organ was opened this year, and was designed after what we know today about the organs Bach knew and played. The builder is Dominique Thomas of Ster-Francorchamps (eastern Belgium) HAUPTWERK Quintadena 16' Principal 8' Viola di Gamba 8' Gemshorn 8' Rohrflöte 8' Octava 4' Spitzflöte 4' Quinta 3' ( 2 2/3') Octava 2' Sesquialtera 2r 1' - 1 3/5' Mixtur 3 or 4r (two positions for the knob: 3r without tierce, or 4r with 4/5' tierce). Lowest rank on C: 1 1/3' Cymbeln 3r, lowest rank on C: 1/2' Fagott 16' Trompete 8' HINTERWERK (also "division in the back", very common in Bach times instead of a RP) Quintadena 8' Bordun 8' Salicional 8' Traversflöte 8' Flöte 8' (tuned in "Kammerton", 440 Hz) Octava 4' Flöte douce 4' Rohrflöte 4' (tuned in "Kammerton", 440 Hz) Spitzquinta 3' (2 2/3') Octava 2' Waldflöte 2' Tertia 1 3/5' Quinta 1 1/3' Mixtur 3r, lowest rank on C: 1 1/3' Vox humana 8' Cymbelstern PEDAL Principalbass 16' (wood) Violonbass 16' Subbass 16' Violabass 8' (from HPTW) Gemshornbass 8' (HPTW) Rohrflöte 8' (HPTW) Octavbass 8' Octavbass 4' Posaunbass 16' Fagottbass 16' (HPTW) Trompete 8' The borrowings are made after the "wandering stops" design, which means they are available either on the HPTW, either on the Pedal. This system allows for a more stable tuning than a borrowing stricto Sensu. Pierre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusingMuso Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 The organ was opened this year, and was designed afterwhat we know today about the organs Bach knew and played. The builder is Dominique Thomas of Ster-Francorchamps (eastern Belgium) HAUPTWERK Quintadena 16' Principal 8' Viola di Gamba 8' Gemshorn 8' Rohrflöte 8' Octava 4' Spitzflöte 4' Quinta 3' ( 2 2/3') Octava 2' Sesquialtera 2r 1' - 1 3/5' Mixtur 3 or 4r (two positions for the knob: 3r without tierce, or 4r with 4/5' tierce). Lowest rank on C: 1 1/3' Cymbeln 3r, lowest rank on C: 1/2' Fagott 16' Trompete 8' HINTERWERK (also "division in the back", very common in Bach times instead of a RP) Quintadena 8' Bordun 8' Salicional 8' Traversflöte 8' Flöte 8' (tuned in "Kammerton", 440 Hz) Octava 4' Flöte douce 4' Rohrflöte 4' (tuned in "Kammerton", 440 Hz) Spitzquinta 3' (2 2/3') Octava 2' Waldflöte 2' Tertia 1 3/5' Quinta 1 1/3' Mixtur 3r, lowest rank on C: 1 1/3' Vox humana 8' Cymbelstern PEDAL Principalbass 16' (wood) Violonbass 16' Subbass 16' Violabass 8' (from HPTW) Gemshornbass 8' (HPTW) Rohrflöte 8' (HPTW) Octavbass 8' Octavbass 4' Posaunbass 16' Fagottbass 16' (HPTW) Trompete 8' The borrowings are made after the "wandering stops" design, which means they are available either on the HPTW, either on the Pedal. This system allows for a more stable tuning than a borrowing stricto Sensu. Pierre ===================== It looks all right, but couldn't they afford a proper pedal organ? MM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre Lauwers Posted December 29, 2007 Author Share Posted December 29, 2007 =====================It looks all right, but couldn't they afford a proper pedal organ? MM Bach's organs had nothing more (often only 16-8-16), and also with borrowings. Do we need an hybrid Buxtehude/bach Pedal ? Pierre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kropf Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 Seems to be a nice layout, even with the borrowings. If it sounds well, too, it should be a nice and expressive instrument. I like the optional third of the mixture. And I agree with Pierre that the Pedal division is sufficient from the Bach point of view, and more would be a move towards North Germany indeed (though, if it would have been affordable, it might have been a gain). The proper acoustic projection of a Hinterwerk depends on the building. E. g., the caseless Oberwerk of the Hamburg Jacobi Schnitger projects perfectly via the archs of the vault and strikes all arguments one can hear in "Orgelbaukunde" about the need of a case for a really good organ (You all know so many other examples). Is there an audio sample available on the web already? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre Lauwers Posted January 3, 2008 Author Share Posted January 3, 2008 I hope this link will work: http://i17.servimg.com/u/f17/11/52/27/37/p1020210.jpg An ancient case without RP also, and sufficient room behind. According to historic examples, the HIW is higher than the OW, close to the ceiling, and without a roof. There are no recordings available yet, but no panic, I shall communicate the first ones here. Pierre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
innate Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 I hope this link will work: http://i17.servimg.com/u/f17/11/52/27/37/p1020210.jpg An ancient case without RP also, and sufficient room behind. According to historic examples, the HIW is higher than the OW, close to the ceiling, and without a roof. There are no recordings available yet, but no panic, I shall communicate the first ones here. Looks lovely, merci, Pierre. Is there much room for the other musicians in the gallery (for whom I imagine the Kammerton stops are provided)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre Lauwers Posted January 3, 2008 Author Share Posted January 3, 2008 Looks lovely, merci, Pierre. Is there much room for the other musicians in the gallery (for whom I imagine the Kammerton stops are provided)? Of course there is, and you see the chairs at the right of the pictures. You can arrange for the Bach Cantates there... Pierre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcnd5584 Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 Bach's organs had nothing more (often only 16-8-16), and also with borrowings.Do we need an hybrid Buxtehude/bach Pedal ? Pierre Whilst this is indeed true of some of the instruments with which Bach was associated, that at Mülhausen was rather more complete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazman Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 Whilst this is indeed true of some of the instruments with which Bach was associated, that at Mülhausen was rather more complete. Yes, indeed. It is a retrograde step not to put choruses on the pedal organ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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