gazman Posted April 8, 2008 Posted April 8, 2008 Welcome Malcolm. I hope you enjoy contributing here! Silence is a wonderful gift which seems to terrify many people nowadays.
contrabordun Posted April 8, 2008 Posted April 8, 2008 I heard it was originally an improvisation - pity the poor sod who had to transcribe it from the recording.
gazman Posted April 8, 2008 Posted April 8, 2008 I heard it was originally an improvisation - pity the poor sod who had to transcribe it from the recording. Fortunately, it's just about within my capabilities!
gazman Posted April 8, 2008 Posted April 8, 2008 I once managed to do it in under 4 minutes, but it cost me a fortune in physiotherapy bills afterwards! And it took months of brain-ache to learn too!
Guest Patrick Coleman Posted April 9, 2008 Posted April 9, 2008 More than once I have heard Martin How say that children cannot create a reverent atmosphere but they can respond positively to one created by adults. Malcolm Kemp It's very true that children respond most positively to a reverent atmosphere; yet it's also true that they can create one instinctively when faced with something awesome or beyond their understanding. Adults often spoil such occasions with busy-ness or with an attempt to stop the children thinking too deeply.
contrabordun Posted April 9, 2008 Posted April 9, 2008 I once managed to do it in under 4 minutes, but it cost me a fortune in physiotherapy bills afterwards! Yeah Yeah Yeah, technically very impressive no doubt, but at what cost to the composer's intentions? I bet the audience didn't hear half the actual notes.
dcmbarton Posted April 9, 2008 Posted April 9, 2008 It's very true that children respond most positively to a reverent atmosphere; yet it's also true that they can create one instinctively when faced with something awesome or beyond their understanding. Adults often spoil such occasions with busy-ness or with an attempt to stop the children thinking too deeply. That is quite true. Its usually not the children that are the problem; its the adults!
handsoff Posted April 9, 2008 Posted April 9, 2008 Yeah Yeah Yeah, technically very impressive no doubt, but at what cost to the composer's intentions? I bet the audience didn't hear half the actual notes. Has anyone tried it in a church with an induction loop for the hard-of-hearing?
Vox Humana Posted April 9, 2008 Posted April 9, 2008 I once managed to do it in under 4 minutes, but it cost me a fortune in physiotherapy bills afterwards! And it took months of brain-ache to learn too! A jazz band has been noted doing it in 90 seconds (true!) My trouble is that I lose concentration and make mistakes.
pwhodges Posted April 9, 2008 Posted April 9, 2008 A jazz band has been noted doing it in 90 seconds (true!) When I needed a shorter version, I performed just one movement (the first, as I recall - but it was in 1963, so my memory might be faulty). As a discussion point, which of the following is a truer representation of this piece (both exist): (1) A CD with three tracks of digital silence, so that you listen to your local ambience; (2) A CD with a recording of the studio ambience at the time of the recording. Paul
contrabordun Posted April 9, 2008 Posted April 9, 2008 Well, (1) is a recording of a live performance and (2) is a studio recording, in which performance errors, etc, may have been 'revisited'.
Vox Humana Posted April 9, 2008 Posted April 9, 2008 As a discussion point, which of the following is a truer representation of this piece (both exist): (1) A CD with three tracks of digital silence, so that you listen to your local ambience; (2) A CD with a recording of the studio ambience at the time of the recording. I really can't make up what is left of my mind, but I see that one can buy a DVD containing six different performances of the piece, including the premier of Stokowski's transcription for orchestra. True to form, Stokowski has tampered with the score. http://www.musicweb-international.com/clas...07/Cage_433.htm
davidh Posted April 10, 2008 Posted April 10, 2008 I was once going to play it, but when I found that the piano was out of tune I had to cancel.
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