DouglasCorr 0 Report post Posted December 13, 2005 I notice in the forthcoming Bach programmes on the BBC there are a number of recordings of Karl Richter and the Munich Bach choir. What I particularly used to like about these was that the organ continuo generally featured an unforgettable quintadena stop. I have always been disappointed that this type of stop does not appear more widely in new organ specifications. I would have thought it would be an essential colour for much organ music up to the early 18th century. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pierre Lauwers 0 Report post Posted December 13, 2005 I notice in the forthcoming Bach programmes on the BBC there are a number of recordings of Karl Richter and the Munich Bach choir. What I particularly used to like about these was that the organ continuo generally featured an unforgettable quintadena stop. I have always been disappointed that this type of stop does not appear more widely in new organ specifications. I would have thought it would be an essential colour for much organ music up to the early 18th century. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> ....In northern Germany. Everywhere else where Quintatön or Quintaton is to be found, the actual stop behind that name is rather a Lieblich Gedackt. This includes Cavaillé-Coll's 16' Quintaton on the swell. And of course southern germany. Best wishes, Pierre Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MusingMuso 0 Report post Posted December 13, 2005 ....In northern Germany. Everywhere else where Quintatön or Quintaton is to be found, the actual stop behind that name is rather a Lieblich Gedackt. This includes Cavaillé-Coll's 16' Quintaton on the swell. And of course southern germany. =============== I think that the best and most useful Quintaton that I ever came across, was a re-voiced Libelich Gedackt by Brindley & Foster. The re-voicing by Hill, Norman & Beard was ingenious, and involved little more than tacking pieces of plywood onto the existing mouth with glue and panel-pins! MM Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
John Robinson 0 Report post Posted December 13, 2005 [i think that the best and most useful Quintaton that I ever came across, was a re-voiced Libelich Gedackt by Brindley & Foster. The re-voicing by Hill, Norman & Beard was ingenious, and involved little more than tacking pieces of plywood onto the existing mouth with glue and panel-pins! MM <{POST_SNAPBACK}> And opening the foot holes, perhaps? John Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AJJ 0 Report post Posted December 14, 2005 The treble part of the 16' Swell Bourdon at Bath Abbey was apparently voiced to be used as as a Quintaton in the recent Klais work. With no such stop evident in the stoplist it had to be explained by Peter King the DOM where the characteristic sound was coming from! AJJ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Pierre Lauwers 0 Report post Posted December 14, 2005 ......In northern Germany, you'll find the good ones, made of 90%plus lead like nearly all the interior pipes of such organs. An this is the reason they sound magnificent with the dispositions they have. Now if you copy such specifications with tin pipes, you'll get a...Neo-baroque organ! Best wishes, Pierre Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest paul@trinitymusic.karoo.co.uk Report post Posted December 14, 2005 ......In northern Germany, you'll find the good ones, Don't forget the superb Quintadenas to be found almost everywhere in Holland. I haven't ever heard a poor one there - most UK examples are excessively forceful in comparison. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
David Coram 0 Report post Posted December 14, 2005 I sadly missed one this afternoon, on an 1850 Gray & Davison. It was added by a gentleman called Robin Winn, and an organbuilder (John Budgen) has taken it out again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pierre Lauwers 0 Report post Posted December 14, 2005 Don't forget the superb Quintadenas to be found almost everywhere in Holland. I haven't ever heard a poor one there - most UK examples are excessively forceful in comparison. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Northern Germany and Holland are, from a cultural and stylistic point of view, the same Orgellandschaft. Even the actual languages are nearly the same; the northern german dialects are understandable in the Netherlands and Flanders. There is no significant differences with the organs both sides of the border. Best wishes, Pierre Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pcnd5584 0 Report post Posted December 14, 2005 There is an extremely beautiful Quintatön on the GO of my own church instrument. It possesses an un-forced, singing quality with (naturally) a prominent fifth harmonic. It also makes a surprisingly good sub-unison foundation. It is, furthermore, an interesting occasional alternative to the Pedal Bourdon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonathan Thorne 0 Report post Posted December 14, 2005 There is also an interesting one on the organ I play at the Symphony Hall, Birmingham as a Quintadena 16 on the Positiv. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Vox Humana 0 Report post Posted December 15, 2005 Better a manual 16ft Quintadena than a Bourdon, I say, but I'm not over-fond of either. St George's, Windsor, has one on the Swell that works well enough and a very different one at 8ft on the neo-Baroque Choir (somewhat reedy in tone). The latter is a useful and distinctive colour that I would be very happy to have in any classically-voiced organ. Not sure I'd want it in a Romantic instrument though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites