SomeChap Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 Thank you for the inside information about Nottingham, Philip. I do apologise if my enthusiasm for the new combinations at Trinity Cambridge (unintentionally) implied a criticism of the music programme at Nottingham (or at Oundle); I hear nothing but good things about it. No doubt the Marcussen is difficult to work with as you describe in detail, not least because of its position in the building. I did mean it when I said that the Marcusen was an interesting comparison to the recently-enhanced Metzler at Trinity; as a generation of organists we inherit a stock of often excellent but difficult instruments from the late twentieth century and I don't blame anyone for finding a creative solution to their custodianship. My intention was to express support for Trinity's approach of making their great but difficult organ viable for perhaps another decade or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian van Deurne Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 "Boying" the bellows reminded me of a particular church service that I was 'volunteered' for by an organist friend of mine who was going on holiday abroad for three weeks and needed to find a substitute performer. Although he had never told me this before I waved him off at Manchester Airport the week before, was that this service was not going to be just a normal Sunday service but it was, in fact something that I hadn't heard of at the time, a 'patronal festival' kind of service which meant apart from the usual hymns and other pieces, the choir was going to sing a full-scale anthem as well as other bits, including me softy accompanying the primary school children in a song they had learnt during the term. That, as well as a couple of extra hymns completed the programme. Now, the other thing I never knew before accepting this job was that the church was in the process of having all the electrical circuits rewired a few weeks before but this work had run slightly behind. This meant that although all the lighting was operational, they hadn't got round to installing the three-phase electrics by the time of the service which naturally meant that the organ blower was out of action so the whole service would need to be blown by hand. This, I was told by the vicar, wouldn't be any problem as he'd engaged one of the locals to perform this task as he used to do it all the time when he was a boy so "it shouldn't present any problems at all." Come Friday night choir practice, arrangements had already been made to give this service a "full dress rehearsal" to iron out any timing or processional problems that might arise. It was then that I was introduced to "Old Frank" - an octogenarian parishioner who was going to "poomp tha' organ." Well, at first everything went fine although the choirmaster stopped proceedings a couple of times to comment on certain things. We got through the anthem and another hymn okay before it was the turn of the children to perform their song. Then for the final hymn which contained six verses, long enough for the choir to process down the church and back to their robing room. Then trouble. I had just played the first line of the second verse when the wind pressure started to fall and the organ died, sounding like a dying bunch of ally cats as it did so. I stopped, everyone stopped. 'Oh my God!' I thought as I scrambled off the organ. 'Old Frank, I hope he's alright and hasn't had a heart attack or something!' I walked round the back of the organ, opened the curtain and there was Old Franck, sitting on a chair and glancing over a newspaper. "What's up, are you alright?" I gasped. "I thought perhaps you were ill" I said. He just looked at me, shook his head and said "No, no, I's alright boy." and smiled. "So why have you stopped, we haven't finished yet!" I asked. Then he looked at me again, stood up, put down his paper and said in a serious tone. "When I was a lad, I used to poomped tha organ 2,464 times e'rey Sunday. Und tha's ad that!" he told me before sitting down again and picking up his paper. By then the vicar had arrived with a couple of churchwardens to see what was going on. In the end I left them to it and returned to the organ bench, informing the choir what had happened as I did so. After another five minutes or so one of the churchwardens came up to me and said "You should be alright to finish now. We've spoken to Frank gently and he's agreed to provide the organ with some more wind." as he stood shaking his head with a big grin forming on his face. Just then I heard the organ roar into life again and we managed to finish the rehearsal without any more problems, but I said later that it was just as well we had rehearsed it all before the actual performance on Sunday as it could have been very embarrassing. All of this happened over forty years ago but I expect old Frank is up there somewhere, complaining to the angels that "tha's ad enough poomping for today!" P.S. As regards registration changes on Silbermann and other organs from the 18th century, I always used to engage my two elder daughters to turn the music (if indeed I actually needed it by then) and change the stops when required and it always worked well. Playing historic instruments it is totally unacceptable to "bang the stops in and out" as they all need to be treated with great care and respect. I did, however, come across one organ that had two very small foot levers at floor level underneath the right stop jamb that worked by engaging or disengaging the manual shove coupler when playing. I found it invaluable during my student days as I would often forget to engage the coupler manually, not being used to shove couplers at that time. When I asked the organist about it he wasn't sure just when it had been fitted although he knew that it was very early In the organ's history. Making a detailed study of the mechanism much later, I estimated that it wasn't later than about the mid 1820's, the organ having originally been built in 1742. With best wishes, Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomeChap Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 I quickly grabbed a few photos in the organ loft at Trinity the other day in case they were of interest. I was jealous of the nice little colour lcd screen nestled neatly in the woodwork above the music desk for watching the conductor. I believe the wooden bars between the manuals act as sequencer advance buttons. It looks like there's USB connectivity of some sort as well. The stop action is still mechanical of course. The list of people having their own memory level made some interesting reading! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Robinson Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 No pictures! Or is it just me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Cooke Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 8 hours ago, John Robinson said: No pictures! Or is it just me? No, it's me, too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomeChap Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 Apologies, I'll try to fix this evening. Must be something to do with google. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomeChap Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 OK, they should be working now. (I won't bore you at length but that was a right old mission! Google Drive obfuscates the URLs of your images, and is very thorough about it. I ended up transferring them to flickr so I could get hold of direct URLs. Grrr. The good news is I added in two extras, including one of Trinity Chapel looking gorgeous in the sunlight!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Cooke Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Thanks for persevering. What did you mean about bars between the manuals? And can you describe what registration aids the organ has? Are these all new since the instrument was first installed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomeChap Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Hi, I don't know the organ well and only had 2 mins to take a couple of photos. Below the keys of each manual is a wooden bar running the length of the keyboard (most organs have them). Based on the notes on the music desk, these bars seem now to have the facility to act as Sequencer Advance controls if you push them. I didn't try. As far as I can see, the only registration aid is a sequencer which can be set up for many different organists, operated either by the combination pedals to the right of the swell box, or by the coloured buttons on the new slidy-thing to the left of the keys, or by the touch-screen to the right of the keys. I could be wrong though, and will leave it to someone who knows the instrument better if you want to know the full gory details! I understand there were no registration aids at all previously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Cooke Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 2 hours ago, SomeChap said: Hi, I don't know the organ well and only had 2 mins to take a couple of photos. Below the keys of each manual is a wooden bar running the length of the keyboard (most organs have them). Based on the notes on the music desk, these bars seem now to have the facility to act as Sequencer Advance controls if you push them. I didn't try. As far as I can see, the only registration aid is a sequencer which can be set up for many different organists, operated either by the combination pedals to the right of the swell box, or by the coloured buttons on the new slidy-thing to the left of the keys, or by the touch-screen to the right of the keys. I could be wrong though, and will leave it to someone who knows the instrument better if you want to know the full gory details! I understand there were no registration aids at all previously. Many thanks, SC. I wonder if Stephen Farr might possibly pick up on this if he has time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowland Wateridge Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 (edited) Well, it would be good to have authoritative answers, but there are possible clues in SC’s photographs. Using usual numberings the key slip beneath manual I seems to be solid. In the key cheek at each end there is possibly a recessed thumb-piston type button in wood, unless this is purely decorative carving (I don’t think they are replicated in the key cheeks above, but can’t be certain). The key slips for manuals II and III are in three sections with shorter lengths at the treble and bass ends. All this can only be speculative. I think we are on stronger ground looking at the pedals and the hi-tech registration setter and sequencer. There are > and < foot levers suggesting advance and retard. The couplers are obvious. To the right of the swell pedal and the > lever are levers labelled A, B and C which I suspect control memory channels (or are they ventils?). All of this could be shot down by someone with inside knowledge and, as you say, Stephen Farr could doubtless solve the mysteries! P.S. I haven’t been able to find anything about this on Metzler’s website. Stop controls might still be mechanical for hand-registration, but Metzler must have introduced slider solenoids for the new combination and sequencer systems. Urgent clarification from ‘someone in the know’ is needed. Edited October 2, 2019 by Rowland Wateridge P.S. added Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Choir Man Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 The college have just posted a new video from the installation of the new master. The attached screen capture shows the discrete square buttons and digital display above the 3rd manual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Cooke Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 The video is well worth watching - fabulous music. First time I have heard the John Gardner organ/trumpet piece which I think was written for John Birch for use at one of the SC festivals in the late 70s - an exciting voluntary! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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