General And Divisional Pistons

[Guest Psalm 78 v.67]

I had £60 for 48 in a 40 limit once.

[pwhodges]

In Oxfordshire, if you do the exact trigger speed (36mph in a 30 area) you get the option of going on a "speed awareness course" instead of getting points. It costs a little more than the fine (about £70 vs £60), but it's worth it to avoid accumulating points. The offer is not repeated if you reoffend within 3 years. Both my wife and I have done this course :-)

 

Paul

[contrabordun]

.... about £120.00 extra, in fact.

 

That's the way to do it!!!

[David Coram]

A general pistoff feeling, then?

 

The Dorset traffic police always were noted for being particularly unsociable. Look on the bright side: at least you got your licence back.

 

Smug reply - don't tell anyone, but when jetting from a carol service in Bournemouth to a concert in Salisbury just before Christmas, I passed a rather nice silver BMW doing a nice round number of miles an hour on the dual carriageway. He followed me for about ten miles, then his radiator grille lit up like a fireworks display. It being 5 to 6, he declared I was probably only doing 'about 90' and therefore he'd give me a fixed penalty ticket.

 

In went the licence, and back it came two weeks ago - with no points at all. Splendid stuff. So I won't hear a word said against Dorset police, if you don't mind!

[Guest Psalm 78 v.67]

Smug reply - don't tell anyone, but when jetting from a carol service in Bournemouth to a concert in Salisbury just before Christmas, I passed a rather nice silver BMW doing a nice round number of miles an hour on the dual carriageway. He followed me for about ten miles, then his radiator grille lit up like a fireworks display. It being 5 to 6, he declared I was probably only doing 'about 90' and therefore he'd give me a fixed penalty ticket.

 

In went the licence, and back it came two weeks ago - with no points at all. Splendid stuff. So I won't hear a word said against Dorset police, if you don't mind!

 

Perhaps they could have a word with their colleagues in cambridgeshire

 

This is further off topic than ever - but how long do "points" last? I can't remember...mine was June 2003 - temporary 50 restriction on A1 for miles, suddenly dropped to 40 with no advance warning; camera right by the 40 sign.... Grr! Was on way to have a play at Lincoln though, so day was not all bad!

[contrabordun]

They don't count for 'totting up' after 3 years, but you can't get them removed from your licence [for which DVLA charges] for 4. Not that I have would any reason to just happen to know this off the top of my head, you understand.

[Guest Nigel ALLCOAT]

They don't count for 'totting up' after 3 years, but you can't get them removed from your licence [for which DVLA charges] for 4. Not that I have would any reason to just happen to know this off the top of my head, you understand.

 

Although the topic is Gen Pistons, many by now must realize that these are not my forte! However, I can tell you about Points and not Pistons. For musicians dashing from place to place, I do however think it of interest as so many of us must rely on this form of transport to create a livelihood.

 

Totting

Repeat offenders who reach 12 points or more within a three year period become liable to a minimum disqualification for 6 months, and in some instances 12 months or 2 years - but must be given an opportunity to address the court as to why they should not be disqualified (such as hardship to family as job would be lost etc.) The excuse/reason may only be used once in three years should the situation arise again.

If you are disqualified, all points are wiped from the licence upon its return. But it must be applied for from the DVLA and you cannot drive without it in your possession.

 

New Drivers

 

Newly qulaified drivers who incur 6 points or more during a two-year probationary period from the date of passing the driving test will automatically have their licence revoked by the Secretary of State and will have to apply for a Provisional Licence until they pass a repeat test. This total must include any points imposed prior to passing the test provided they are within three years.

 

Points remain on the license for 3 years. If you are a Magistrate they remain for 5 years. So if you see a slow driver at all times, you know who might be at the wheel.

 

Allegro ma non troppo!

 

Nigel

[David Coram]

If you are a Magistrate they remain for 5 years. So if you see a slow driver at all times, you know who might be at the wheel.

 

Nigel

 

Interestingly, Bournemouth is festooned with speed cameras - littered with them at every turn, even on comparatively insignificant residential streets - except, curiously, for one very long, very straight, very clear road (along which there are frequent accidents caused by boy racers) leading from the town centre to the prosperous Sandbanks area.

 

Guess where all the magistrates, police chiefs, High Sherriffs and mayors live...

[Guest Nigel ALLCOAT]

Interestingly, Bournemouth is festooned with speed cameras - littered with them at every turn, even on comparatively insignificant residential streets - except, curiously, for one very long, very straight, very clear road (along which there are frequent accidents caused by boy racers) leading from the town centre to the prosperous Sandbanks area.

 

Guess where all the magistrates, police chiefs, High Sherriffs and mayors live...

 

AND I forgot to mention that there will be an added £15 'surcharge' to ALL fines in court if the offense was after 1st April this year. This is from the Govt and courts MUST obey. Put up the fees!

 

N

[Vox Humana]

AND I forgot to mention that there will be an added £15 to ALL fines in court if the offense was after 1st April this year. This is from the Govt and courts MUST obey.

 

N

OK, so it's a tax, but it's an entirely avoidable one. They're the best kind.

[David Coram]

OK, so it's a tax, but it's an entirely avoidable one. They're the best kind.

 

I wish we could put a similar tax on the pottering old fools who dawdle along the A36 and A303 at 41.5mph irrespective of the conditions or speed limit, and then have the cheek to shake their fist and flash their lights at anyone who passes them.

[Guest Cynic]

I wish we could put a similar tax on the pottering old fools who dawdle along the A36 and A303 at 41.5mph irrespective of the conditions or speed limit, and then have the cheek to shake their fist and flash their lights at anyone who passes them.

 

 

This thought may connect with a couple of mine

1. There should be a tax on caravans - MOTs for them, also a specialised driving test for anyone who wishes to tow anything.

2. Have you ever noticed? At the weekend, they take away zimmer frames and give OAPs brand new cars!

[AJJ]

This thought may connect with a couple of mine

1. There should be a tax on caravans - MOTs for them, also a specialised driving test for anyone who wishes to tow anything.

2. Have you ever noticed? At the weekend, they take away zimmer frames and give OAPs brand new cars!

 

And people in white vans who drive very close to the back of one's car - mostly early in the morning on the way to work.

 

AJJ

 

PS Maybe they are organ tuners making up time - see the other thread!

[David Coram]

And people in white vans who drive very close to the back of one's car - mostly early in the morning on the way to work.

 

AJJ

 

PS Maybe they are organ tuners making up time - see the other thread!

 

What? At those prices? More likely to be in the 40mph club...

[pcnd5584]

Good ploy!

 

£120 for 38 mph is a bit steep isn't it?

 

Actually, I was caught twice - three days apart. One occsasion was at 07h35. The first notice did not arrive for several days.

 

Personally, I think that three points and £60.00 is rather steep for 38mph.

 

Smug reply - don't tell anyone, but when jetting from a carol service in Bournemouth to a concert in Salisbury just before Christmas, I passed a rather nice silver BMW doing a nice round number of miles an hour on the dual carriageway. He followed me for about ten miles, then his radiator grille lit up like a fireworks display. It being 5 to 6, he declared I was probably only doing 'about 90' and therefore he'd give me a fixed penalty ticket.

 

In went the licence, and back it came two weeks ago - with no points at all. Splendid stuff. So I won't hear a word said against Dorset police, if you don't mind!

 

Smug git.

 

Lucky smug git.

 

Bloody lucky smug git.

 

 

I wish we could put a similar tax on the pottering old fools who dawdle along the A36 and A303 at 41.5mph irrespective of the conditions or speed limit, and then have the cheek to shake their fist and flash their lights at anyone who passes them.

 

Absolutely.

 

Have you also noticed that they tend to lack peripheral vision? The 'Frizzell' roundabout (just before the Wessex Way) is a particular danger spot.

[Vox Humana]

2. Have you ever noticed? At the weekend, they take away zimmer frames and give OAPs brand new cars!

The South Hams area of Devon is replete with such people. They all seem to have cars with 2.5 or 3 litre engines which they drive on main roads at no more than 30 mph.

[Vox Humana]

And people in white vans who drive very close to the back of one's car - mostly early in the morning on the way to work.

Talking of tailgating reminds me of when my wife and I were driving up into the Cévennes in France a couple of years ago. The road was a succession of hairpin bends, most of which were followed by a steep rise. Another car was driving right up our backside. There wasn't any room for it to overtake, nor was there anywhere for us to pull off the road and let him past. We soon realised that we had good acceleration, but he didn't, so we took to slowing down to a crawl before each hairpin bend and then zooming up the hill, leaving him standing at the bottom. By the time he'd managed to glue himself back onto our bumper we'd reached the next hairpin and went through the whole procedure again. This went on for miles! When, eventually, he did manage to overtake us, he seemed to have an awful lot to say as he passed. Probably just as well my French isn't too fluent!

[AJJ]

The South Hams area of Devon is replete with such people. They all seem to have cars with 2.5 or 3 litre engines which they drive on main roads at no more than 30 mph.

 

And around Sidmouth last weekend!!

 

AJJ

 

Back to pistons (!!!) - the organ in the PC there has a vast 4 decker console - NPOR mentions nothing of this. The church is not big and I don't think it is 'non pipe' - anyone know? maybe it goes with the big cars.

[Guest Cynic]

And around Sidmouth last weekend!!

 

AJJ

 

Back to pistons (!!!) - the organ in the PC there has a vast 4 decker console - NPOR mentions nothing of this. The church is not big and I don't think it is 'non pipe' - anyone know? maybe it goes with the big cars.

 

 

If we are talking about Sidmouth Parish Church, I recorded some tracks there about a year ago. Bob Millington is the organist - a colleague of Michael Farley's and I imagine any new console has got to have been installed by the pair of them. The instrument is a pretty decent Hill c.1890 with additions. Some of the additions are a little eyebrow raising, but why not?! The organ had already been tinkered with in a major way before the present/recent enlargement work was done.

 

Not a lot of acoustic. Otherwise, great fun.

[Vox Humana]

Yes, the organ does have a mixed pedigree: William Hill & Son, 1882; Hele & Co., 1947, 1964; Michael Farley, 1993, 2007. The expansion to a 4-decker is a result of the latest work by Michael Farley.

 

The south-west peninsula organists' associations are having a joint meeting there on 19 May. Along with the blurb for the day came the new spec:

 

Great Organ

Violone 16

Open Diapason 8

Hohl Flute 8

Principal 4

Wald Flute 4

Twelfth 2 2/3

Fifteenth 2

Piccolo 2

Tierce 1 3/5

Mixture (19.22.26.29) IV

Trumpet 8

Solo to Great

Swell to Great

Positive to Great

Great to Positive

 

Swell Organ

Gamba 8

Lieblich Gedact 8

Voix Celeste 8

Principal 4

Flute 4

Fifteenth 2

Mixture (22.26.29) III

Vox Humana 8

Oboe 8

Contra Fagotto 16

Cornopean 8

Clarion 4

Swell Sub Octave

Swell Super Octave

Swell Tremulant

Solo to Swell

 

Positive Organ

Lieblich Gedact 8

Spitzflute 4

Blockflute 2

Principal 2

Tierce 1 3/5

Larigot 1 1/3

Cymbal (33.36) II

Clarinet 8

Solo to Positive

Swell to Positive

Positive Tremulant

 

Solo Organ

Bourdon 16

Geigen 8

Viol d’Orchestre 8

Viol Celestes 8

Stopped Diapason 8

Flute Harmonique 4

Oboe (Sw.) 8

Double Trumpet 16

Trumpet 8

Clarion 4

Tuba 8

Solo Sub Octave

Solo Octave

 

Pedal Organ

Sub Bass 32

Open Wood 16

Violone 16

Bourdon 16

Octave 8

Bass Flute 8

Fifteenth 4

Flute 4

Mixture (19.22.26.29) IV

Sackbut 32

Trombone 16

Contra Fagotto (Sw.) 16

Trumpet 8

Great to Pedal

Swell to Pedal

Positive to Pedal

Solo to Pedal

 

Accessories

10 generals

8 departmental pistons

64 channels

playback system

 

I gather the church is not as large as you would expect for an organ of this size.

[Guest Cynic]

I thought the church was a fair size, but (as usual) the organ is tucked away rather - at the far East end of the south aisle. The church appears smaller than it is because internal lights are not particualrly effective and the glass is fairly dark.

 

The interior is not lofty, rather wide and there are carpets, hassocks and pew runners - no surprise that the acoustic is rather dry! Even so, this organ gives a good account of itself. Though there's no note on your spec, I am sure that quite a bit of the Pedal including the 32' reed is electronic - put it this way, it was before the new console was installed. Indeed, it was tuneable to the remainder of the organ by a rotateable stop-knob rather comically sited above the console itself and labelled (if memory serves) with a large print '50' - I took this to comemmorate someone's 50th birthday not 50 years in post. I have sometimes seen stopknobs used as light-pulls for toilet lights and as cupboard handles, but this solitary knob at luggage rack height 'hanging around on its own' was a new one on me!

 

The strangest stopknobs I have ever used (omitting carved ones sur le continent) were the white plastic cupboard-door handles mounted well below the stopjambs at St.Paul's Newcastle-under-Lyme by the late John Norris when he first installed a battery of 16-8-4 Compton Trumpets to enlarge the Swell.

[Graham Powell]

 

"Actually, I was caught twice - three days apart..........."

 

Unlucky indeed - what speed were you doing on the second occasion?

 

G

[Guest Psalm 78 v.67]

I thought the church was a fair size, but (as usual) the organ is tucked away rather - at the far East end of the south aisle. The church appears smaller than it is because internal lights are not particualrly effective and the glass is fairly dark.

 

The interior is not lofty, rather wide and there are carpets, hassocks and pew runners - no surprise that the acoustic is rather dry! Even so, this organ gives a good account of itself. Though there's no note on your spec, I am sure that quite a bit of the Pedal including the 32' reed is electronic - put it this way, it was before the new console was installed. Indeed, it was tuneable to the remainder of the organ by a rotateable stop-knob rather comically sited above the console itself and labelled (if memory serves) with a large print '50' - I took this to comemmorate someone's 50th birthday not 50 years in post. I have sometimes seen stopknobs used as light-pulls for toilet lights and as cupboard handles, but this solitary knob at luggage rack height 'hanging around on its own' was a new one on me!

 

The strangest stopknobs I have ever used (omitting carved ones sur le continent) were the white plastic cupboard-door handles mounted well below the stopjambs at St.Paul's Newcastle-under-Lyme by the late John Norris when he first installed a battery of 16-8-4 Compton Trumpets to enlarge the Swell.

 

Didn't Pierre Cochereau do some home-made electrics at Notre Dame?

 

I know an organ where the console light switch is inscribed "Water Heater"

 

I have also seen a screw-in stop knob on the back of a detached console used to secure a strap to gather the various wires neatly together.

 

Slightly off-topic, the Phoenix toaster at Warrington Parish Church has a "Solly-Flood Trumpet". If I recall, there was a Solly-Flood who was a lawyer to do with the Titanic (I think) but what is the connection with trumpets and/or Warrington?

[AJJ]

Re Sidmouth - thanks Vox & Paul - I knw someone here would know!

 

AJJ

[Tony Newnham]

Yes, the organ does have a mixed pedigree: William Hill & Son, 1882; Hele & Co., 1947, 1964; Michael Farley, 1993, 2007. The expansion to a 4-decker is a result of the latest work by Michael Farley.

 

The south-west peninsula organists' associations are having a joint meeting there on 19 May. Along with the blurb for the day came the new spec:

 

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Hi

 

May I suggest that you download an NPOR survey form & take it with you, so that we can enter the relevant info.

 

Every Blessing

 

Tony