Justadad 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2007 C-M Widor died 12th March, 1937. Does that mean his music goes out of copyright next month? (I appreciate editions of his music retain their copyright, but as far as performing and broadcasting his music is it open season from 13/03/'07?) Justadad Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrbouffant 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2007 The editions are out of copyright if they are older than ?25 years and the composer has been dead 70. Witness what happened when the rule used to be 50 years and Kalmus produced their copies of the Hamelle editions. You can still buy these of course even though the rules changed again to 100 and then to 70 years. Everything is open season from 13th March unless the editions are very recent !! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
innate 0 Report post Posted February 11, 2007 The editions are out of copyright if they are older than ?25 years and the composer has been dead 70. Witness what happened when the rule used to be 50 years and Kalmus produced their copies of the Hamelle editions. You can still buy these of course even though the rules changed again to 100 and then to 70 years. Everything is open season from 13th March unless the editions are very recent !! I think that the 70 years counts from Dec 31 of the year in which the creator dies, so technically Widor won't become public domain until 31.12.2007 although I'd be surprised if Hamelle got shirty with you between now and then. On the other hand David Titterington's edition of THE toccata (the one with the misprints) may well be protected until 70 years after his (DT's) demise. Cf. the relatively recent "corrected" edition of Ulysses, which was, it seems certain, brought out specifically to extend copyright income for the estate and the publishers. I am unaware of a hundred-year rule ever being in place in the UK. Can you illuminate me? Michael Sorry to reply to my own post, but to clarify Mr B's point about editions: I think the 25 year copyright is for the typesetting and layout, not the editorial content. But copyright law is extremely complicated and I may well have got this round my neck. Michael Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrbouffant 0 Report post Posted February 11, 2007 The 100 year rule may have been mooted but never implemented. Perhaps 70 was the compromise figure in the UK. I'm no expert but at one stage 100 years was being considered... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richard Fairhurst 0 Report post Posted February 11, 2007 I think that the 70 years counts from Dec 31 of the year in which the creator dies, so technically Widor won't become public domain until 31.12.2007 Correct. On the other hand David Titterington's edition of THE toccata (the one with the misprints) may well be protected until 70 years after his (DT's) demise. Also correct! None of this, of course, stops a chap from selling very cheap CD-ROMs full of scanned Widor (and Dupre, and Franck, and...) on eBay. Richard Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MusingMuso 0 Report post Posted February 12, 2007 C-M Widor died 12th March, 1937. Does that mean his music goes out of copyright next month? (I appreciate editions of his music retain their copyright, but as far as performing and broadcasting his music is it open season from 13/03/'07?) Justadad ========================== Try this people:- http://www.sheetmusicarchive.net/single_li...?composer_id=75 MM Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Justadad 0 Report post Posted February 12, 2007 Hi MM Thank you for that. I wasn't actually looking for music, though. L recorded himself playing the Widor Suite for Piano and Flute, and was thinking about putting it on his My Space site. I wondered about the copyright issues and found that we are about to hit the 70th anniversary of Widor's death. Thanks to the answers here I now know he can't put the mp3 on his site until next January (by which time he'll probably want to use something else anyway) even though I doubt anyone would be likely to object. J ==========================Try this people:- http://www.sheetmusicarchive.net/single_li...?composer_id=75 MM Share this post Link to post Share on other sites