Hopefully I can clarify some of the confusion around the Otto/Schulze employees of Brindley.
'Herr Otto' was my gg-grandfather - Christian Rudolf Otto, known as Rudolf/ph. He was born in Horla, Prussia in January 1836. (I have copies of travel documents: an internal pass for 1864 and a pass to travel from Paulinzalle to Hull in February 1865.) He can be found in Doncaster in the 1861 census, living with his future brother-in-law, Carl Schulze who was married to Sarah, a widow with 4 children. Both Carl and Rudolf are listed as organ builders. Also with them is Ernst Kaestner, organ builder.
Rudolf married Johanna Emeline Schulze, Carl's sister, at the German Lutheran Church in Hull in 1866. They moved to Sheffield where they remained until their deaths in 1906 (Emeline) and 1908 (Rudolf). They had 5 children: Sophia (1866-1942), Frederick William (1868-1952). Lily (1878-1878), Percy Holmes (adopted son, 1880-1918) and Ernest Rudolph (1882-1951, my grandfather). Ernest also worked as an organ builder before working as a cabinet maker for his brother at Otto & Son House Furnishers (shop on the corner of London Road/Randall St in Sheffield - now a Viewtnamese restaurant).
Carl was born at Paulinzalle, Thuringen in 1836. His sister Emeline (my great grandmother) was born in 1842. I believe that they had two brothers (August and Louis?) and one sister (Dorothea).I have found a marriage for August Louis Martin Schulze (1846-) to Sophie Wilhelmine Christiane Hugo in 1876. German marriage certificates give more information than UK ones and this confirmed their parents as Johann Friedrich Scholtze and Johanna Katharina Sophie Scholtze. (Johann Friedrich Schulze is listed as a cooper (deceased) on Rudolph and Emeline's marriage certificate in 1866.
Carl and Sarah had 5 children: Frederick Schulze(1861–1919), Female Schulze(–1863), Charles Schulze(1866–1874), John Henry Schulze(1868–1874) and Sarah Jane Schulze(1871–1917). Charles and John Henry died within 4 days of each other and were followed by their mother Sarah the following year.
Carl worked for Albert Keates as foreman for over 20 years.
Carl and Rudolf died within a few days of each other in January 1908.
I am not aware of the link between my Schulze line and that of Edmund Schulze and would be happy to hear any links or theories from others.
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Hopefully I can clarify some of the confusion around the Otto/Schulze employees of Brindley.
'Herr Otto' was my gg-grandfather - Christian Rudolf Otto, known as Rudolf/ph. He was born in Horla, Prussia in January 1836. (I have copies of travel documents: an internal pass for 1864 and a pass to travel from Paulinzalle to Hull in February 1865.) He can be found in Doncaster in the 1861 census, living with his future brother-in-law, Carl Schulze who was married to Sarah, a widow with 4 children. Both Carl and Rudolf are listed as organ builders. Also with them is Ernst Kaestner, organ builder.
Rudolf married Johanna Emeline Schulze, Carl's sister, at the German Lutheran Church in Hull in 1866. They moved to Sheffield where they remained until their deaths in 1906 (Emeline) and 1908 (Rudolf). They had 5 children: Sophia (1866-1942), Frederick William (1868-1952). Lily (1878-1878), Percy Holmes (adopted son, 1880-1918) and Ernest Rudolph (1882-1951, my grandfather). Ernest also worked as an organ builder before working as a cabinet maker for his brother at Otto & Son House Furnishers (shop on the corner of London Road/Randall St in Sheffield - now a Viewtnamese restaurant).
Carl was born at Paulinzalle, Thuringen in 1836. His sister Emeline (my great grandmother) was born in 1842. I believe that they had two brothers (August and Louis?) and one sister (Dorothea).I have found a marriage for August Louis Martin Schulze (1846-) to Sophie Wilhelmine Christiane Hugo in 1876. German marriage certificates give more information than UK ones and this confirmed their parents as Johann Friedrich Scholtze and Johanna Katharina Sophie Scholtze. (Johann Friedrich Schulze is listed as a cooper (deceased) on Rudolph and Emeline's marriage certificate in 1866.
Carl and Sarah had 5 children: Frederick Schulze(1861–1919), Female Schulze(–1863), Charles Schulze(1866–1874), John Henry Schulze(1868–1874) and Sarah Jane Schulze(1871–1917). Charles and John Henry died within 4 days of each other and were followed by their mother Sarah the following year.
Carl worked for Albert Keates as foreman for over 20 years.
Carl and Rudolf died within a few days of each other in January 1908.
I am not aware of the link between my Schulze line and that of Edmund Schulze and would be happy to hear any links or theories from others.