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  1. I doubt the Beeb or the orchestra will want to take it with them. I know however there's an organisation interested in it, for restoration and preservation.
  2. The point is no one expected or asked the council to restore it, so the restoration figure they quote is pointless!! In any case it was pretty well fully working when the power was switched off in 2015
  3. Let's get a few things straight on this: 1. The theatre pipework additions were only a few ranks as far as i know. The very large and original classical concert organ was all there. 2. The utter nonsense the council quotes that it would have cost £250 per pipe to test all of them for asbestos contamination, is complete XXXXXX - of course they would NOT have needed to test each pipe!! If asbestos dust was suspected they could simply have had the lot cleaned as a precautionary measure!! (Duh!!). It's been done before (relative recently in Holland I understand) and probably over here (c
  4. On the subject of Compton strings, I saw Duncan Booth the other day, whilst at Booths collecting the renovated Battersea Tuba, and I asked him again about Compton outsourcing strings to Duncan's Father in the 30s. He confirmed that all Compton string ranks made with black roller beards (as opposed to wood finish) were made by Mr Booth Snr.
  5. Compton did indeed make some Haskelled basses - Southampton Guildhall has a Haskelled 16ft Contra Viola extension to the Swell 8ft Viola da Gamba. If I remember correctly, so does Wormwood Scrubs organ (ex-Forum Ealing) Peter
  6. As I have said before on here, Duncan Booth (Booths of Leeds pipemakers) told me personally a few years back that his Father used to make some string ranks for Compton. I think there could be no doubt that some pipework, and maybe some other items, were outsourced in the height of Compton's production. i too have that video and am well aware that they were able to make everything in house, but the sheer quantity in the early 30s, coupled with info from people like Duncan, surely means they didn't make everything for every one of their organs. Peter
  7. My understanding is that there were cubes, AND there were polyphonic pipes (in more of a normal pipe shape). Southampton has a 32ft Bourdon polyphonic PIPE - it is a single large wooden pipe of some 8ft tall (from memory) that has compartments up its front that are opened successively by pneumatics, in order to incrementally increase its internal volume. It is NOT a cube. It plays the 32ft octave from B down to E, then repeats E for the remaining 4 notes.
  8. Well I know that Hope-Jones together with Norman & Beard made some extended ranks around 1900. The tuba for instance at Battersea is an extended rank from 16ft through to 4ft. Although it was added in 1903, we believe it was planned for in the original design of 1900 but not initially installed. The organ also has Diaphonic horn, Open diapason and Violin 8ft extended to 16ft as well as slider chests in Swell & Orchestral with 73 pipes in to allow for octave couplers, but you can't really call this a unit organ as such.
  9. Sorry, yes true to say that Compton went down the EP route for soundboards, as HJ did, but persisted with solenoid stop actions and relays. He did venture briefly into pneumatic note actions for relays, and a couple still survive - absolute works of art! Peter
  10. Compton's pneumatic actions (certainly from the early thirties onwards, and probably from the 20s) were not the same as HJ at all. All earlier unit chests I've ever seen used what I believe was his own derivation of a Roosevelt type unit chest, with magnets exhausting single pneumatics which directly operated disc pallet valves. Not the fastest of designs but it worked, although from about the mid thirties (I think) he used his own compound magnets on the bottom two octaves of the manual chests, thus improving the speed of the lower notes.. HJ used double pneumatics (primary & secondar
  11. and by the way, HJ did invent Tibias way before emigrating. Battersea Town hall HJ had a Tibia Plena and Profunda when built in 1901. Worcester cathedral HJ organ (1896) had a Tibia Clausa and Tibia Profunda.
  12. Dear David This is all very interesting - one correction though. As far as my research indicates, there was a later HJ/Ingram organ made - that is at St Oswalds church in Hartlepool, Northern England. It's still there too, although has been unplayable for many years. Presumably it was designed by HJ before he left the UK, but not completed and installed until 1905. I have been undertaking much research on HJ lately, particularly in relation to his time and associations with Norman & Beard. I'm very keen to learn more too. As this is off topic for this thread, perhaps you could writ
  13. I would be very keen to collaborate on a JC book, and I expect we could get input from other important people like Ian Bell too.
  14. You are so right. The really wonderful thing about JC too was that he understood traditional organ building techniques and values, but sought to add his own mark to the industry, enhancing certain aspects, inventing completely new things, streamlining and standardising components, maintaining high quality workmanship and voicing and even forging ahead towards pipeless instruments. A real genius. As a starting point, would you be interested to join me at Southampton Guildhall for a study of Compton's Magnum Opus there some day? I'm sure that on a maintenance day you could come down, have a
  15. Excellent news. i may be able to help if needed, and of course there are several others who could have very good input. I'd particularly like to document all the technical innovations - such as bi-phone pipes, polyphones, 32ft cubes, Melotones, solo cello, matrix relays (both the usual fully electro magnetic ones AND the rare ones with pneumatic note pull-downs), compound magnets, reversers, metal tibias, wiffle-tree swell motors, etc etc, plus a full account of his stops, voicing, use of extension, and such like.
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