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  1. That's right, except that the pub was actually called the Black Swan.

    Gah! Of course, and to think I used to walk past it on most days, on the way to the church and its rather fine Harrison.

     

     

    Apologies for the delay in replying - have been in France with a choir for the last few days.

    Envy!!!

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    I would kill talented organist and good guy in Halifax, David Barker, except that I believe we are related, and killing one's own family is frowned upon; at least in this country. :blink:

     

    I don't know much about S S Wesley, do I?

    With regard to the last bit about S.S.Wesley, I don't know how reliable the source is, but I once heard that Bairstow was not beyond ordering errant clergymen out of the organ-loft at York, in no uncertain terms.

     

    Does anyone know more?

     

    MM

     

    I have been told a while ago, I forget by whom, that the fishing incident occured near Helmsley - and the inn was the Black Lion in that town (now a hotel).

  3. Apropos of WSC, there's a cheese shop here that places an A board on the pavement advertising their wares. It quotes WSC as saying, "A gentleman only buys his cheese from Paxton & Whitfield". I asked the manager if he really said that as shouldn't it have been "A gentleman buys his cheese only from P & W"? (They also sell bread, wine, biscuits, ham, pickles etc etc).

     

    "Umm", he said, and quoted the sentence Vox has mentioned. "Perhaps we didn't sell anything but cheese in his day, or maybe our marketing department made it up".

     

    And I would never start a sentence with "but".

     

    I recall an A board on a City street, outside a curry emporium bearing the legend:

     

    "The first and best Indian restaurant in East London

    Try once for our best service"

     

    (I can't recall going back.)

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    Same tune; different words.

     

    It is the "Lourdes hymn" essentially, but there is a longer version, which is the one you quote I believe.

     

    You know what these 19th century Catholics were like......but who can blame them after being banned for so long?

     

    Anyway, this is the version I had in mind:-

     

    Immaculate Mary, your praises we sing.

    You reign now in Heaven with Jesus our King.

     

    Ave, Ave, Ave, Maria! Ave, Ave, Ave, Maria!

     

    In Heaven the blessed your glory proclaim;

    On earth we your children invoke your sweet name.

     

    Ave, Ave, Ave, Maria! Ave, Ave, Ave, Maria!

     

    We pray for our Mother, the Church upon earth,

    And bless, Holy Mary, the land of our birth.

     

    Ave, Ave, Ave, Maria! Ave, Ave, Ave, Maria!

     

     

    If we sing the extended version, I think we chop some of the verses.....it's a while since we had it, and my hymn book is att back to schooldays church.

     

    MM

     

     

    That takes me right back to schooldays!

  5. The thing about the interverse gap is that it's a part of the music, as much as the verse. So, one piece of music from the in-breath before the playover to the end of the echo after the last verse. Thus, the interverse gaps are counted/felt according to the pulse of the music, not necessarily the number of beats. (Perhaps the pulse could be defined as the minimum number of beats in the bar if one was conducting a competent orchestra. (E.g. 2 for 4/4, 1 for 3/4, etc.) )

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