Paul Carr
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Good luck, and have fun!
It's a small world. In June, two of our Board members are giving recitals there, only a week apart. One (no names, no pack drill) is organist at a certain church in the Midlands and, coincidentally, the other (again no names, no pack drill) was a predecessor of his at that church and is playing at Truro the week after.
It's a gorgeous instrument.
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I’d like to suggest a team of three
Paul Hodges (who has recording expertise and hardware)
Cynic (who, apart from being a brilliant organist, knows a lot about turning recordings into ‘product’), and
David Coram (another brilliant organist and representative of a, err, younger generation)
Sounds good to me... :angry:
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Ditto. I think maybe one has to vote in all three sections, which I do not wish to do.
And me - I had to put 'depends on choice of organs' in the third section to get it to work. Could you add a simple 'yes' option to the third question? I would, and others may, buy it regardless of organ or repertoire simply because the good folk here had gone to the effort of doing it!
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Calais perhaps?
AJJ
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So, who else went?
We were there, only got back last night.
Truely amazing playing on the most amazing instrument in one of the most famous buildings in the world - can't get it much better than that.
Anyone know where Ste Clotilde's new mobile console is parked? I couldn't find it!!
Heard St Eustache 'through the walls' late on Sunday night on the way back from eating... Franck Choral 2 with all the wide scale mutations going... We felt it before we heard it!!
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I would love to know whose text Ridout based his edition on. I was never aware that he was a musicologist so I can't believe he worked from the original sources (though the fact that he didn't publish anything scholarly does not necessarily mean that he did not have the knowledge). I had a glance at some of the volumes once. The texts looked very neat and easy to read and I remember much being made of the attention paid to the page turns - a distinct selling point over NBA in that respect. I would have bought them if I could have been sure that the texts were good. However, I never saw any reviews in the learned journals, which I thought a bit strange. Even if review copies were not submitted I would have thought some scholar would have pounced on them.
Incidentally, while on the subject of Bach editions, does anyone know what happened to the projected new OUP edition of the organ works? Who was doing it? It appeared in their catalogues quite a few years ago now as "in preparation" and then subsequently disappeared again as siliently as it came. Presumably the project was abandoned?
I use the Mayhew edition, it was a 21st birthday present, in fact all four, and especially volume three are looking distinctly worn out - I'm now 34!!
One major question I've always had is why they didn't include the 'Gigue' Fugue (BWV 577) especially as the 'short 8' are there...
The major plus is the excellent layout - amazingly there always seems to be a hand free to turn, and the large, thick paper handles very well indeed. The down side is that they won't fit in my music case, and when I've played Bach recitals requiring all four volunes it's like showing up with a breeze block!
As for errors, I've spotted a few, but as I didn't learn from these volumes I suspect I see what i know should be there rather than what is there, if that makes sense.
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I had heard that Norman Cocker's Tuba Tune was originally an improvisation.
Peter
Oooo, really - I hadn't heard that, had anyone else?
Thanks for all of the other responses fascinating - and plenty to think about!
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Hi,
There is an arrangement in an RSCM Festival Service Book (Purple cover I think ) No. 8 . The organ arrangement is by Francis Jackson.
See: an old review which mentions this
http://www.jstor.org/view/00274666/ap030880/03a00430/0
Best wishes
Philip
That's probably it - I'm remembering the purple cover!
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My choral society The Silurian Choir are rehearsing the work at the moment for perforance on April 5th. We have copies on loan through the county music library. Our loan copies will be going back immediately after this date and would be available through the library system after that date. I guess most performances are around the Easter period so it should not be too difficult to get hold of copies for September.
On a related query, I'm due to play the Antiphon (Let all the world in every corner sing) for the first time in Salisbury Cathedral in a few weeks and would be interested to receive any advice from others as to how best to adapt the accompaniment from the vocal score for organ. How much use is generally made of the pedals?
There is an organ arrangement of it. I can't remember who by, or anything else useful for that matter, but I played it in a concert about 15 years ago. I vaguely remember it was very much easier than trying to juggle the accompaniment reduction in the vocal score.
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I would imagine about an hour, but with DB, you never know! He might offer play for the 6.30pm Mass!!
In addition to DB's recital, Olivier Latry is 'on duty' that weekend... 6.30pm Mass Saturday night and all day Sunday. His improvisations at Sunday's 5.45pm Vespers are always stunning.
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I'm putting together a recital programme of organ works which were originally improvised by the composer and then later written down, either by the composer or someone else.
As a starter, off the top of my head I can think of:
Dupré: Symphonie-Passion
Tournemire: Te Deum (Duruflé, I think)
Thalben-Ball: Elegy
Cochereau: Suite de Danses (Briggs)
Briggs: Improvisation on a theme by Holst
So, what else is out there?
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I'll be there!
Me too!
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What a gloriously happy day - thanks to all those who were able to attend. I know that Sir Michael was quite overwhelmed that such an interest has been taken in the college's acquisition and was touched by the friendly comments he received. There were many other musical happenings up and down the country. Nevertheless around 200 came and went throughout the day. It was so good to put faces to some of the log-on names from here! Thanks for all your support and lovely playings.
All best wishes,
Nigel
Many thanks to you too, Nigel for your input and communications via this board and fb during this exciting project.
I think many of us will have 'fresh' ears when we next register a trio sonata too...
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Interesting point this, and after spending a day dismantling a Norman & Beard yesterday I had intended to post a question. I removed a rank of Rohr Flute pipes. All the metal pipes had cork stoppers pierced with a chimney made of pipe metal. Has anyone experienced this before. Needless to say that the stoppers are crumbling somewhat after nearly 100 years.
Jonathan
The Lieblich Gedackt on the Choir organ of the 1909 N&B from Cradley Heath (now in China: http://www.paulcarr.co.uk/page9.html) had this too. The odd one had started to crumble by 2004, but most were still sound.
Lovely stop, especially when coupled to the other 8' flutes.
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Am I correct in thinking that the score of this splendid work by Berveiller has never been published?
I was wondering that too... I vaguely remember John Scott (I think) saying, at a recital, that he'd got it "off the internet".
Any ideas?
Searches in the past haven't thrown anything up.
It's a great piece.
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What a shame. If ever an organ should be restored as closely as possible to that state in which it was first constructed, it is that at Ste. Clothilde.
Tournemire was greatly disappointed with certain aspects of the rebuild and enlargelment which he designed in the 1930s. I cannot imagine why anyone should wish to make this instrument even larger.
I should have liked to have seen a true and faithful restoration of this instrument as near as possible to its conception - if only that we might have a better understanding of performance practice regarding the works of César Franck.
If it were returned to the scheme Franck knew, how would Langlais be performed authentically on his instrument?
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... and from which I deduce that the chamades and the 32' pedal reed are "prepared for", ...
The chamades and the 32' pedal reed are there, I saw and heard them Christmas before last (2006)... The Chamades are where the console used to be on the upper gallery, you can just see the ends of them if you know where to look. I have a photo of them somewhere. There was no sign of the mobile console at that point though and the lower gallery console, which now faces the case (player's back to the Altar) was still a three manual.
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That's what comes of using Olde Fingerynge on electric action.
All the best,
Bigle
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I am sure he will. This was his school and thus knows the organ so well. He lunches with me in Oxford on the 8th after he has visited. So all is happening and in good hands ...
I am sure readers would be interested in all the other eminents who passed through this establishment. Quite a few!
Best wishes,
Nogel
You been in Denmark too long Nogel???
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Nachthorn - there's a CD on the Calliope label (CAL 9937) Escaich plays Escaich. "This CD covers most of my organ works and also the Motets for 12 voices and organ. The programme begins and ends with a short improvisation .........." Recorded at St Etienne du Mont where I believe he is organist. As you say, modern and unapologetic, which is probably why it is not heard very often (if at all). Nevetheless I recommend the CD if you want to hear him.
Olivier Latry played some Escaich at Birmingham Symphony Hall in November - it's great stuff, but very difficult... the audience seemed to like it though.
Yes you're right, Warnier and Escaich are joint Titulaire organists at St Etienne du Mont.
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Liber Usualis is available as a freely downloadable PDF file from here. There some other useful stuff from the same site.
Brilliant link, thanks!
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Thanks David, that looks very interesting.
Looking forward to hearing it at some point...
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Sounds really exciting...
Is there a spec published anywhere - I can't spot one.
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Who has a copy of the Flor Peeters Concerto for Piano and Organ?
I have a copy, but I've never heard anyone play it beyond the recording issued of Ron and Mary Perrin from Ripon Cathedral.
It's worth learning and playing, I think.
MM
Yes, it's really good!
I performed it with Michael Jones twice last year along with Dupré: Variations on two themes, Franck's own arrangement for Piano and harmonium or organ of his P, F, & V and some other works we've discovered along the way. Programme here: http://www.paulcarr.co.uk/Organ%20and%20Pi...0Programmes.pdf
We were supposed to also give the same concert a week later, but the venue had their piano tuned to concert pitch between our rehearsal and the concert, the organ is very sharp, the result is very unplesant!
The piano tuner refused to retune the piano so we had to pull the plug on the concert, reluctantly and sadly. P.
The piano tuner refused to retune the piano
Henri Mulet
in The Organ
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I struggled too! So if it's not too late, Paul could you send them to me too, please? They sound lovely.
Thanks in advance,
P.
paul@paulcarr.co.uk