pwhodges
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Yesterday I found that YouTube also has Richard Hills playing Tiger Rag in New York on the Paramount Wurlitzer. Near the end he slips in a bar or two of Widor's Toccata (yes, that one)! I've timed the video to that:
Paul
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The ones that postdate the restoration are:
Hoffmann, Horst. 1999. Zwei Bach-Orgeln. Orgel International 3: 478-483.
Preller, Gottfried. 2002. Die Orgeln der Johann-Sebastian-Bach-Kirche zu Arnstadt. In Perspectives on Organ Playing and Musical Interpretation: Pedagogical, Historical, and Instrumental Studies: A Festschrift for Heinrich Fleischer at 90, ed Ames Anderson et al., 138-46. New Ulm, Minn.: Graphic Arts, Martin Luther College.
In other words, the same people as your sources... A possible interpretation of the difference (with no further information) is that over 50% of pipes existed for those stops, but half of them were not restorable, and this was lost in the translation of my book.
Paul
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7 hours ago, Colin Pykett said:
a modern (c. 2000) reconstruction in which 75% of the pipework is completely new.
Ten of the 21 stops have "over 50% of original material" according to Wolff & Zepf "The Organs of J.S.Bach" (2012). No reeds and no pedal stops, though. With four of the missing stops being pedal, that says that something over 50% of the pipes are original, not a mere 25%. Five other stops are modelled on a single surviving pipe, which means that at least the general style and scale should be in the ballpark. The pedal stops and manual reed are modelled on examples from the same builder or his contemporaries.
Paul
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My feeling is that temperament is not relevant here.
My experience is, of course, learned; yet I do feel the weakness of harmonies with unplanned parallels quite strongly in even casual listening, and even in some instances where I tolerate them for other aspects of the music, I am saddened by their presence.
Paul
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6 hours ago, innate said:
I know the page says this organ is pitched at “Chorton” so wouldn’t be particularly practical for using with orchestral instruments.
I recall that transposed continuo parts have survived for some Bach cantatas, so that might not be decisive.
Paul
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46 minutes ago, Keitha said:
I'm not sure what you mean by "with the music" Paul - the full booklet that I referred to earlier gives full details of all the music and the composers and performers plus the occasional melody line.
The last four coronations had an order of service with the music of the anthems etc printed in it. A facsimile of that for Elizabeth's is still in print:
https://www.rscmshop.com/books/B0333/coronation-of-her-majesty-queen-elizabeth-ii-facsimile-edition
Original copies turn up on eBay regularly.
Paul
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I note that the commentary-free feed still cuts away from the music at times when showing other happenings.
Paul
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Do we know if there will be a version with the music, as was produced for each of the past four coronations?
Paul
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The BBC's own page says that the Red Button is providing a described version, described as "accessible coverage for people who are blind or partially sighted on Red Button, hosted by Petroc Trelawny". But actually it seems that the Red Button leads to a choice of possibilities (see quote below), presumably by switching you to iPlayer.
BBC2 will have signed commentary for the deaf (alongside the spoken, presumably).
"Royal Life Magazine" says that there will be an option on iPlayer to watch live without commentary - it's odd that the BBC haven't mentioned that, though.
"Broadband TV News has the following slightly more detailed note:
QuoteThe iPlayer will also carry versions with subtitles, sign language, and an alternative commentary version for people with sight loss. The alternative commentary version will also be available on red button on broadcast channels, and the subtitled, alternative commentary, and signed versions will be available to viewers by pressing red while watching a BBC channel on an internet-connected TV.
Viewers will also have the option to watch live without BBC commentary.
ITV and Sky will broadcast the proceedings without any commercial breaks. Their commentary is often more restrained than the BBC's.
Paul
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The name of the Abbey's pdf of the vivats has "coronation" mis-spelt!
Paul
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Francis Jackson playing the Grove organ at Tewkesbury to mark its restoration (which included the completion of the 32' with the longest pipes from Christ Church Cathedral Oxford, inside one of which the key to the organ loft used to be kept). It was a suitably romantic program (including "Grand Dramatic Fantasia" by Neukomn, depicting a summer picnic interrupted by a thunderstorm!). The Mendelssohn 1st Sonata and Franck 3rd Choral were more to my taste, though.
I bought a copy of the cassette recording of it which was made available, and still listen to it occasionally.
Paul
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Or the wrong time - Late Victorian Town Hall concerts were clearly a thing.
Paul
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The (self-published?) CD on the late Roger Fisher's website is made up from the Wealden Studios recordings and later ones; Wealden Studios themselves vanished sometime later in the 1980s.
I hope his family are keeping the sales of his recordings going.
Paul
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That supplier typically offers both possibilities (and even if there are any additions, the original will be untouched and fully documented so you can restrict yourself to it, as is true with any sample seta for that software).
Of course, some additional options are part of the software, and cannot be omitted - but they typically have a separate interface from the sample set's console (an example is that the software allows any manuals to be coupled).
Paul
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Hmm. Four figures is a bit steep!
Times have changed, but when in 1968 I wanted to play the Willis in Reading Town Hall (to show a fellow student, Martin Renshaw), the nice lady in the office said I could simply hire the Hall for an hour when it wasn't otherwise in use, and she charged me 5/- for it!
Paul
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I know that 32' manual stops are found from time to time, but how many organs are there with two 32' manuals (in this case HW and BW)?
Paul
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40 minutes ago, Martin Cooke said:
Why can't the 'leads' either side use a hand or a finger?
When I was at Christ Church in the '50s (and visiting as a student in the '60s), a finger was used. And Sidney only came down to conduct for a cappella pieces. There was at that time no separate organist or assistant, and the organ scholar only got quite limited outings (though more in the later period).
Paul
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The window in the left wall certainly cuts out Queen's Hall.
Paul
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Is it being installed or removed? The state of the building suggests to me the latter, as do the miscellaneous-looking piles of pipes.
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Ooh, the (pre-Prout) Vincent Novello edition of Messiah! I used to have a copy of that...
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The last couple of times I've been to Ludlow, the Wetheringsett organ was in the big church there.
Paul
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One of the characteristics of Queen Elizabeth II was that she kept in touch with changes in the society over which she ruled. In many aspects of this we may never know her personal view of changes such as those in the liturgy, but she clearly accepted that such changes happen. I would even suggest that using the more modern words helped make the service more accessible to those many of her subjects who are not so familiar with the older words.
Paul
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The question that arose was was whether All Souls College was a war memorial, which would be bigger than Charterhouse chapel.
I would say not, but can see how that view might arise. In All Souls' own account of their founding you will find:
QuoteChichele's twofold aim was that his College should produce a learned clerical 'militia' to serve church and state, and that it should also be a chantry where the Fellows should pray for the souls of the faithful departed and of those killed in the French wars – in particular for members of the House of Lancaster, with whom Chichele had close political connections.
I don't consider that to make the college itself a memorial.
Paul
PS, to update my previous answer about an organ, the college did have an organ in early days, but it was lost in the Reformation, and never replaced.
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All Souls has no organ. At present University College is using the All Souls chapel during refurbishment work, and they've imported a Peter Collins box organ to cover, which will be taken to Univ when the services return there.
Paul
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This is normal behaviour that I have observed on every forum I've ever been involved with. Why? "Something, something, human nature", I suppose.
Paul