Dafydd y Garreg Wen
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Part of the problem is that we use cathedrals for a purpose they weren’t designed for. They weren’t built in order to accommodate large congregations (and certainly not large congregations who are expected to sing with organ accompaniment). They were built large, not to be filled with lots of worshipping bodies, but for the same reason they were built beautifully - for the glorification of God. To the extent that their size served a practical purpose it was that of allowing the clergy to conduct the large-scale processions that were such an important part of worship before the Reformation whilst being sheltered from the the elements.
If your brief was to design a building in which a large number of untrained people could sing hymns together with organ accompaniment you’d come up with something rather different. But these are the only large buildings we’ve got and we inherit from the Victorians the idea getting large (singing) congregations together in them; at the same time we want to continue choral worship in quire, and we want a single organ to cope with both. The circle can’t be squared, so it’s not surprise he results aren’t satisfactory.
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Fortunately here, in this part of rural Wales, things musical and ecclesiastical are reasonably healthy, and as near to normal as could be expected. Services every Sunday, apart from the recent hiatus (encompassing three Sundays).
The Welsh organ ban was ridiculous, but it was rescinded in August. In the absence of singing, congregations seem to be taking more notice of and be more appreciative of organ music.
The Welsh government has been very slow to allow choral singing, but that ban too has just been lifted, and our choir is raring to go.
Tuners are working normally.
Finances have been affected, but nothing we can’t cope with. The Church in Wales gave an 85% rebate on the Quota/Parish Share for the second and third quarters of the year, which was a great help.
I’m less confident about the longer term (because of general trends, not the epidemic), but just at the moment things could be a lot worse.
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Thanks to the help of several kind persons (to whom my gratitude) I have now managed to obtain a copy of this piece, which I’ve been looking for for several years.
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The greatest one-that-got-away must be Renatus Harris’ scheme for S. Paul’s:
http://www.stephenbicknell.org/3.6.17.php
If something like this had been implemented (granted that Harris’ proposals are over the top), British organ building would have leaped forwards to a point it didn’t actually reach until the 1840s. With the S. Paul’s instrument as an example and model, pedals (inter alia) would surely have caught on much sooner.
The course of musical history would have been very different.
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The thread about Arthur Wills put me in mind of Michael Howard’s Evocation (Salve Regina).
Can anyone help me obtain a copy please?
It was published by Oecumuse, but it is not among the titles that Geoffrey Atkinson of Fagus Music inherited from them. (I asked him a while ago - as someone mentioned on another thread recently, he is indeed a very helpful person.)
Judging by the David Price recording I could probably reconstruct it myself, but I’m a bit lazy ....
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1 hour ago, Niccolo Morandi said:
15 or 20 Carillons feels like such a small number, but I guess considering that it is an instrument that can ring out across a whole city or town, you probably don't need so many of these instruments. Plus it's probably not the sort of instrument that has a high demand compared to the Organ.
By contrast there are said to be over 5,000 towers with bells hung for full circle ringing, the indigenous tradition.
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There’s also Manchester Town Hall:
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As well as the Guildhall, there is another one in Hull, the 25 bell carillon at Holy Trinity:
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7 hours ago, Rowland Wateridge said:
Frankly it’s astonishing that as recently (in our lives!) as 1959 the visual quality of the film Is so poor.
The quality of streamed videos on the British Pathé site (as on similar sites) is deliberately degraded. The original quality is “only available to customers licensing content for use outside of the home” (site FAQ).
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Thank you. That rather confirms my impression. The instrument I referred to does a good job at pushing out plenty of noise to support congregational singing, and the relatively resonant acoustics temper the sound in the body of the church. But playing it solo was rather unsatisfying. Not the subtlest of instruments!
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The Rushworth and Dreaper Apollo reed organ, which had electric blowing and a conventional pedal board (and draw stops), is worth a mention.
http://tardis.dl.ac.uk/FreeReed/organ_book/node22.html
The only one I’ve played makes quite a racket, but in a resonant building it’s a reasonably effective (and compact) substitute for a pipe organ. Having a pedal board was useful, but it was clearly in need of an overhaul. I recall playing the same instrument as a boy when it was in better condition - I doubt it had had any attention in the intervening years. I suppose the question would be whether the cost of renovation would be justified. (I think the church in question mostly uses an electronic keyboard nowadays ....)
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1 hour ago, handsoff said:
This image shows it on the desk of my keyboard with the neat lettering applied by my sister and defaced with my own addition of the volume number.
Very proper!
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1 hour ago, Martin Cooke said:
In my youth, I covered a fair number of my first purchases with fablon from the local ironmongers. Now, 50+ years later they look awful and the strength of the covering has had a deleterious effect on the structure as well as the appearance of many of my early Novello Bach volumes and several OUP anthologies. I guess I could do with a lesson in document conservation to last me the next 63 years!
Assuming that the rest is in reasonable condition, it’s easy enough to undo a stapled volume, replace the cover with fresh card, and then sew it up:
I finish off with self-adhesive linen tape (archival grade!) which reinforces the spine and protects the exposed thread on the outside:
https://www.stix2.co.uk/product/self-adhesive-linen-tape/
If I’d known it was that easy I’d have started doing this years ago.
Bound volumes are harder to tackle (whether traditionally done, or so-called perfect binding [ha ha - what a misnomer]), but as long as the text block is intact aren’t really that difficult. (Broken text blocks are another matter ....)
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1 hour ago, Martin Cooke said:
I feel a bit sorry for my choir (which faces more or less directly down the church towards the congregation [in normal times]) when they are singing from the New Oxford Easy Anthem Book. All a bit unnecessarily dispiriting for them.
Quite, especially as some of the pieces in that collection are actually quite difficult!
And someone really looking for simple voluntaries would get a bit of a shock on acquiring the Album of S.V.
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Some of the weaker (but still perfectly acceptable) pieces in this series resemble written-down improvisations - but that’s fine because they give me ideas for my own improvising!
I do so agree that the standard of the series is high - much better than similar volumes from other publishers (one in particular, whom I shall forbear to name).
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Yes, the Postlude is a good piece.
As you observe, most of the music in that volume is solid stuff, but the title does its contents no favours.
I once had a comment (when playing the Murrill as it happens) from a non-musician who was surprised I was using a collection with that title. He’d seen it near the organ and assumed it belonged to learner who had access for practice. It was too complicated to explain that the title was misleading; but I wondered after that whether I ought to cover the volume with brown paper if that was how people generally were going to react on seeing it!
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4 hours ago, Damian Beasley-Suffolk said:
She said my sight-reading gave me away. I still don't know exactly what she had spotted
Possibly that you were good at it. Church musicians (singers as well as organists) don’t always give themselves enough credit for their sight reading skills - even amateurs of moderate ability take for granted (because it’s necessary and expected) a level that’s actually pretty high.
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Thank you. Just the sort of recommendations I was hoping for.
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Hear! Hear! The recital is an excellent initiative.
Ad multos annos.
A discussion of Dr Jackson’s organ works would useful. Because he is a prolific composer and his music takes some getting to know, it is hard to know where to start. As a result I don’t play much by him, which I regret.
It’s not the sort of music that one can play through and say, “Ah, yes, I want to learn that.” It’s only after one has invested time and effort in learning that something clicks and one can really appreciate the strengths and beauties of a piece.
So suggestions from those who play more of Dr Jackson’s oeuvre would be especially helpful.
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Favourite example of poor programming: the recital where all the pieces were in F major, apart from two, which were in ... (wait for it) ... D minor.
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On 28/09/2020 at 18:34, Vox Humana said:
Oh, yes indeed! It's thrilling! I understand that CJR altered the accompaniment in the first quarter and his version has spread to one or two other places, e.g. Salisbury. I prefer SSC's original.
If you have the published sheet, you will have seen his single chant for psalm 114, which is also very gripping. This printed version is incorrect. Campbell claimed that he wrote it out for Novello's from memory and got it wrong. I'm not sure that I quite believe that, but the version he used at Windsor was certainly far superior. The correct version is somewhere in the archives of the Anglican Chant group on Facebook.So the arrangement of Barnby as published is correct, but the original Campbell chant (though originating with the composer himself) isn’t, tho’ you wouldn’t realise that from looking at/performing it.
Meanwhile the manuscript version of the Barnby arrangement circulating in some places, tho’ emanating from S. George’s, is inauthentic.
Fascinating!
Who’d be a musicologist?
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I only have a manuscript copy, but you’re welcome to a scan of it. Vox, however, may have the original.
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57 minutes ago, Brizzle said:
My main dislike is that, since the devices usually only display one page at a time (for the sake of visibility), the number of page turns is actually increased, and has to be thought about more often.
This is very true.
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1 hour ago, Choir Man said:
If copyright permits you to have your music on a tablet device, you can now get software that recognises facial gestures to turn the page. ForScore is one of the apps out there but I'm sure there may be others.
Ingenious, tho’ the opportunity is there for things to go radically wrong!
(Grimaces at wrong note. App interprets as instruction to turn page. Grimaces at this and the app does it again ....)
Bach Weimar Prelude In C 545
in The Organ
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I happened to be consulting Williams about B.W.V. 531 and he notes that a manuscript of that work owned by W.H. Pachelbel c.1740 has “Segue l’Fuga un piu Largo”, which implies that there is not an exact relationship between the tempo of prelude and fugue.
Of course, this is a different piece and the instruction does not (necessarily) originate with the composer or reflect his practice, but it comes from the right milieu (all those connexions between the Pachelbel and Bach families) and from within J.S. Bach’s lifetime.