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Welcome also to Mike Perrier organist of St Marys Moseley, Birmingham.
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Count me in as well Adrian, it sounds like a good day.
Barrie
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I have this evening deleted
* an apparently (happily) inaccurate announcement of a forum participant's death;
* a topic about Iceland being auctioned on eBay;
* a topic linking to a tired story on another forum (with much lower standards on
use of expletives) about parking your car at the shops, walking home and then
thinking your car has been stolen from your drive.
Guys, we are happy to pay for bandwidth taken up with all things pipe organ but not for the above sort of thing. Please think before you post - and please check your facts before posting death notices.
Moderator, Mander Organs
I think we should all offer you a vote of thanks for paying for the bandwidth for this forum, a lot of valuable topics are covered here, but it is often far too easy to stray away from the subject being discussed.
I have to admit I did find the post about Iceland a little amusing!!!!
Barrie
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With respect, it came to a sticky end twenty years ago. This is the first viable proposal to emerge with any prospect of success. The £3M lottery cash is also intended to preserve the church fittings. I'm hoping that includes the Abbott organ.
IFB
I hope the organ is safe as well, if the church fittings are preserved surely this includes the organ, but what use will it get?
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Me too I read it from in the garden!!!!!!!!
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I think the alterations suggested on NPOR originated from a leaflet about the organ written by J Eric Hunt a former organist of the church, this was published in the late 40's early 50's in an attempt to raise money for the work to be carried out by Harrison and Harrison. I know the late Sam Baker longed for the organ to be lowered to allow the sound to fill the church, but even during his tenure the cost was prohibitive.
The organ is well worth a visit and if you can play it, the soft stops, barely audible in the church are exquisite at the console.
The other glory of the church is the east window which is breath taking.
Barrie
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The sloping jambs make me think of Brindley and Foster, but Im sure you can get details as suggested by AJJ, Lance Foy should ceratinly know.
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Yes it is the same firm, I have come across a 2 manual in a Catholic Church in Handsworth and a 1 manual in a church in West Bromwich, both were satisfactory and the keytouch seemed fine, but arent they all. Neither left any lasting memories of wanting to go back and play them.
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The south side case is empty - when I was there I think the Choir division was in it, but my memory may be fading!
Ive just looked it up in the booklet about the organ, yes it is empty, the east end organ is all on the north side.
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Members may be interested in a recital to be given by Harry Bramma on Saturday 20 September at St. Paul's Shipley, West Yorkshire, 7.30 pm. This has been arranged by the Bradford Organists' Association as one of their meetings, but it is an open event and we'd like to get as many as possible to come, hence no admission charge, but a collection. The organ is a very good 3-manual Binns, due for some restoration. See here http://npor.emma.cam.ac.uk/cgi-bin/Rsearch...ec_index=N00083. Currently I play here most Sundays. Be good to see any members who can come. There will be a bar too!
Ron.
Ron,
Has it got the Binns Patent adjustable pistons?
Due to the distance and Weddings I am unable to come, but wish you well.
Barrie
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Well, the best of both worlds, surely!
Organ music scattered throughout the usual schedule, AND programmes dedicated to the King of Instruments. Perhaps the BBC will see the light.....
Or is that a herd of porcine creatures I see gliding in front of the moon?
The porcine I fear
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The British Organ Archive (accessible via the NPOR web site) has some Bevington material available. Go to the BOA tab and enter the town/village that the organ is in and see what comes up. if it's there, an e-mail to the Hon. Archivist should elicit whatever info is in the records that BOA hold - and that may well include the original stop list, etc.
Every Blessing
Tony
Many thanks Tony I looked and drew a blank. I will email you about this.
Every blessing
Barrie
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I am trying to discover how much of the organ I play is by Bevington, it was built in C1842 by that firm in the west gallery of the church, when the chancel was added it was moved to its present position. Over the years many builders have altered the instrument according to the tastes and whims of that particular time, perhaps the worst offender being Nelson of Durham. This work was rectified in the 1980s by Sheffields of Olton. This work included lowering the wind pressures and removing the leathered open from the Great. I am trying to discover what is left of the original organ, did Bevington leave any identifiable markings on his pipework?
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And leave a Cathedral organ without a 32' flue - this isn't Gloucester
Im pleased to say its not Gloucester, although people do seem to like the organ there, I think a 32 Flue sound can be achieved by using the mutations in the Pedal division.
I hope the transpet section at Worcester will be added fairly quickly but as Adrian has stated many times its down to funding, Father Rogers can always supply the 32 flues as a temporary measure via the midi link.
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I use to play many years ago at a church in Handsworth, which had a large Afro-Caribbean congregation, the Vicar there told me to arrive at least 30 minutes after the stipulated time of the wedding as they would not be on time. On several occasions she arrived over an hour later than this, many times have I played the last hymn and had to leave, but they did have a cd player in case of such happenings. All this for £50 no thanks.
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I'm sure that could be arranged, but I'd rather do it just after Christmas as things are very busy here in the Autumn term. Any takers??
A
Yes please Adrian count me in as well
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Going back to the original topic, the magnificent H&H in Newcastle City Hall was still just about playable when I heard last. Does anyone have up-to-date information?
Another very successful restoration is the Caird Hall, Dundee, with a splended CD of Vaughan Williams to prove it from Priory.
I was wondering about that as well, I did read somewhere that a restoration project was in hand does anyone know? In this economic climate I'm afraid the organ is the least of any Councils priorities.
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Latest photos are available here. The console should soon be functioning and we are looking forward to hearing sounds for the first time sometime next week (all being well!).
A
Thank you for those Adrian, I am so glad you don't suffer from vertigo!!! Have you managed to find the spec of the Transept yet, but I imagine you are too busy with 3 Choirs at the moment. Is there a timescale on the big case taking a little walk to the other side, it looks an esay operation.. ahem!!!!
Barrie
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The setter system Paul is the same as St Marys Shrewsbury, there are Drawstops over the department they control you set what you want and pull the appropriate drawstop out and its set. No4 piston on the Great and Swell at Shrewsbury was not adjustable.
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Reading the Liverpool organ day thread started me thinking on how many town hall/former town hall organs are languishing, either out of use completely, or little used and under-appreciated.
St George's Hall, Liverpool seems to be a prime example. There's a virtually untouched Hope-Jones original at the former Battersea Towen Hall (at least there's hope for that one), and here in Bradford, the organ in St. George's Hall, Bradford hasn't been heard for many years.
Just how many others are there? And can we expect cash-strapped loacl authorities to do any thing? If not, what's the solution?
Every Blessing
Tony
Theres a Binns in Wednesfield Town Hall thats rarely heard, I understand its condition is not good, it looks as if its one the the neglected instruments. It would be interesting to try and compile a complete list of such organs.
Barrie
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Elsewhere on this Forum I have referred to these 'auto basses'. They are nothing new. The oldest I have traced is that of Barham in Esssex, which is an 1895 Walker.
Casson Positives were invariably fitted with them, as were the Walker 'Positive' extension organs of the nineteen fifties.
I almost invariably specifiy them on the instruments I deal with in Oxford Diocese on the simple ground that for £150 they are invaluable. No-one has to use them, but to the reluctant organist they are a boon. The most recent one is an extension organ in Quainton Parish Church.
The Casson Positives and single manual Walker Positives also had a 'melodic diapason'. Osmonds fitted similar couplers to their extension organs. See St Theresa's rc church at Biggin Hill for an example.
These couplers are not a clever invention by the pipeless brigade!
The late Noel Mander said that extension organs were often the only way pipes could be got into a church in certain difficult circumstances. His extension organs were masterpieces with far more colour and musical usefulness than the rather bland products of other makers.
Barry Williams
There is an excellent example of a Mander extension organ in Shrewsbury Cathedral, its far preferable to any toaster, how do they compate price wise?
Barrie Davis
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Last night I received an email from a chap I was at school with - it came via our respected board admin. department. The former school lot were trying to find me (amongst others) to arrange an anniversary meeting later this year and by a process of 'Google' and 'Mander' I was found after nearly 40 years in the wilderness (well Somerset etc.)! 'Quite amazing - has anything similar happened to any of the rest of you?
AJJ
A few months ago I read a post on here and added a reply, I got a message from a gentleman who had suceeded me at the church in question. Small world!!!
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Yes, I know... it's absurd, isn't it... but each to his own, you know! Trouble is, I was fascinated by this organ as a small boy and have never quite forgotten the details!
Do we know if there are any photographs of the Willis console in its original position?
Wedding And Funeral Fees?
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I cannot see anyone at my church paying the fees mentioned in the above, I get 55 a funeral and 55 a wedding doubling if theres a video. When I cover the local crem the going rate is 12.50 per service regardless of whats involved, I am sure many crem organists are getting far less, would any of them like to post the rates on here, I know the organist of a Birmingham Crem contributes to this board.
I have not had a salary increase in over 8 years, the excuse being they cant meet the quota, I have now been asked to reduce tunings from 4 to 3 a year and can the organ blower and humidifier be serviced every 2 years, I have said no as a well known member of this board gives recitals at the church once a month and the collection goes towards looking after the organ. When I questioned the treasurer I was told Oh well it goes into central funds!!!!!
How many others have finance problems with their respective churches?