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  1. Thank you for your help. Pleased you can post again.
  2. Thank you. I will mostly likely be speaking to the diocesan organ advisor. But if these issues are to be expected, I don't want to create unnecessary fuss, if these issue are to be expected. But based on playing similar action organs who's work was done decades previous, it seems unacceptable to me. A member who can log in but can't post, did manage to work out which organ it was. He also alerted me to a video of the renovation. Up to now the previous organist who is also the treasurer had engaged the tuner / repairer for maintenance and tuning. Even after those visits, I've still yet to have all notes working. He may just accept that is usual. Below video of renovation.
  3. At a church I play for. I used to play to bar 16. On the Bb (beat 3) I went to the middle of bar 6 (beat 3). repeat until bar 16.
  4. The keyboards and pedalboards were replaced (Old ones stored inside the organ) and now electric as with the stops, all using solenoids. That all connects to a computer ((I assume) that sorts it all out. Hope I've got the correct terminology for this. Looking in the organ, electric right up to the windchest (soundboard). You can connect midi to the organ, which will play all notes and stop selection. Only thing that doesn't work is swell pedal as that's still mechanical. If that helps work out how much is e/pn.
  5. Thank you Adrian. Certainly makes sense and the sort of answer that does clear things up. Reading you reply, I guess the amount spent would make a difference to the size of the organ. The bigger the organ, the smaller percentage of organ overhauled. This one is 3 manuals, 24 speaking stops. I do know the soundboards weren't replaced, possibly cleaned, and the heating system would be the cause of most issues with the solenoids and stop selection.
  6. Thanks for that. Another Organist, that also used to play at that church, said it's not satisfactory. He also knows of organs that have had huge amounts spent on them, with nothing seemingly improved. The only stop spec changes to this organ was moving two 2fts back to original 4th spec. Nothing major, and easy for a non organ builder to do.
  7. A church I play the organ for had the organ overhauled 5/6 years back. I was pneumatic and now electro-pneumatic. A few divisionals put in and organ put back to as close as possible original stop spec. The cost was in the region of £60,000. Which is probably a usual cost for such things. However, since I took over the job (I used to play at the church 20 years previous) there have been many notes which don't work. The company (I wont name, but don't think they are on the forum anyway) gets most of the notes working on visits, some still remain intermittent. Earlier this year the builder suggested the organ 'requires a good days work of action regulation and general maintenance to overcome the settling down of the mechanism'. This was done (and charged for). Also seemed like an excuse to repair faults that shouldn't happen. Still a few notes don't sound and a few have stop working since. I can play chords that don't sound. Over Christmas, the trumpet on the great (the loudest stop on the organ) wouldn't stop sounding even with it in. I had to switch the organ off, which seemed to reset it. Should these type of faults happen so soon after an overhaul, or is it usual. Looking back through the organ maintenance book, there have been notes missing in action early on since the overhaul. Plus a few that don't stop straight away sounding after the key being released. Since the rebuild, the church now has blown heating installed which it seems also isn't ideal for organs. Am I expecting too much. Other organs (with similar action) I've played have had far less problems 20-30 years on since any major work. I look forward to your thoughts.
  8. An electric organ (even a sampled hauptwerk) can never match a real pipe organ. Mostly in the bass 16ft and below ranks. I'm a bass guitarist and someone once said, the only way to hear the pure note is a pipe organ. Speakers still can't match the real natural bottom end. Also, as someone mentioned how strong that could be, again, they may not have the power to match a pipe organ of a similar size. Anyway, back to the main debate. An organ I'm now playing regularly after a 25 year break had a refurb 5 or so year back. Back in the 60's an organist had a 4ft on the great and choir moved to make them a 2ft (missing the top octave). As the organist at the time of the refurb knew this he had them moved back to the original spec. Now when I play the organ, I miss those 2ft pipes. There are none on those divisions. Was the organ with the 2fts or the original spec better. The previous to refurb spec here. https://www.npor.org.uk/NPORView.html?RI=N16005 You can see the ranks that were changed.
  9. For @Robert Bowles This probably wont shed any more light on the origin of this organ. Picture adjusted (and rotated) to bring out the red writing.
  10. for @Robert Bowles picture of Makers plate.
  11. A church I play at has a Hunter Organ, which has a tracker action. Easy to do some work yourself on that one.
  12. Once again thank you to everyone that gave some input. I managed to fix the note today, thanks to the kind generosity of a member on here that send me that parts required.
  13. I'm pleased I stumbled on this thread. Great to see they have a book out (just ordered it). When I was a kid, I purchased a book / pamphlet on St Paul's Cathedral Organ back in the 80's. It's had updates in 1994 and 2008 by Mander Organs. They don't seem to do a book now.
  14. That's great thank you. You mention about soft pieces after service, they would suitable for the end of evening services (once a church I play at starts them again).
  15. I had looked at the book you mentioned (online). Reading your summary, I'm currently pleased I didn't order it. However, at the time I was mostly after the first piece in the 1st six short preludes and postludes book. My old photocopy from my organ teacher has eventually bit the dust. I just checked my book and an old photocopied (35 years old) page from 1st Prelude in F. It still has I II and III. I thought I was playing the first section on the great all those years back, so took I, II and III as Swell, Great, Choir. Top to bottom. I'm going to have to try it with the suggestion above that makes sense, order of importance. Perhaps I started on the swell. Also in the book there are swell, great and choir indications for other pieces. Perhaps, it's not important which keyboard, just a different registration. What is the 105 book like? Difficulty level and types of pieces. I'm trying to find end of service voluntaries.
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