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Clearly Contrabombarde intended to say 8,000 pipes, not 800.
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If this is any guidance, according to the London Oratory music lists these by Bach will be played there at Mass on the 15th: Prelude: Meine Seele erheb’t den Herren, BWV 648 Postlude: Fugue on the Magnificat, BWV 733 For music from France there are works specific to the Feast by Tournemire in L’Orgue Mystique and, interestingly, Alexandre Guilmant: Postlude for the Feast of the Assumption of the Holy Virgin on the hymn "Induant justitiam" (sorry that I don’t readily have source references and I can’t immediately lay hands on the YouTube recording of the Tournemire).
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Adnosad, this subject isn’t new! Debated at length (six pages of comments!) starting twelve years ago, and strong feelings then: https://mander-organs-forum.invisionzone.com/topic/3594-new-console-notre-dame-de-paris/ There are token gestures to ‘terracing’ in the present console. The stop jambs are curved and you will see a kind of terracing, each division of the jambs slightly raised at the very top over the next. It’s rather subtle and seems to have been missed in all the controversy.
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This Sunday, 14th July, Evensong at 3.30 pm in Winchester Cathedral will be Andrew Lumsden’s final service after 22 years as Director of Music. All are welcome to join in the Cathedral or via Live Stream. Sung by the Boy Choristers, Girl Choristers and Lay Clerks of Winchester Cathedral: Responses: Rose Psalm: 66 Canticles: Stanford in A Anthem: Parry “Blest pair of sirens” Hymns: NEH 372, 252 Voluntary: Walton ‘Crown Imperial’ (to be played by Andrew Lumsden)
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An alternative, and I suggest more reliable, narrative of what has been going on at Winchester will be found in this article from the Church Times. I don’t think it is necessary to comment further. As always, we must wait to see what happens. https://www.churchtimes.co.uk/articles/2024/21-june/news/uk/winchester-cathedral-row-bishop-steps-in
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But it seems deliberate! Flentrop’s are hardly likely to make that mistake. When Contrabombarde first raised the point, I looked at photographs of the console. Significantly (?) the stop knobs of both omit the pitch! Then a generic search brought up several 3 ft fluits - notably at Alkmaar. So, whilst having absolutely no definite answer to offer, it might be artistic historicism.
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I can’t offer any musical explanation, but it is not a mistake. The College website confirms the Quintfluit 3 ft and, perhaps more to the point, Flentrop’s website does also: https://www.flentrop.nl/orgel/cambridge-sidney-sussex-college/
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I immediately thought of Farnborough Abbey (C-C/ Mutin) and the ‘Father Willis on Wheels’ at St Paul’s Cathedral, but not sure whether “a relatively dead acoustic” also applied to nominated instruments. Farnborough and, of course, St Paul’s are very reverberant, although I think these two outstanding instruments would still meet PE’s challenge. https://npor.org.uk/survey/N08452 https://npor.org.uk/survey/N13153
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The moderator evidently decided that some comments on the previous thread were unacceptable. S_L’s response to you conveniently and helpfully quoted the moderator’s exact words. This Board isn’t Hyde Park Corner and all contributors have to conform to house rules. The moderator has permitted all comments on this new thread which is the subject you describe.
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I’m sure that is not in dispute, but was not the scenario here. The ‘problem’ arose on the previous ‘Appointments 2’ thread and comments made there were deleted by the Moderator. The subject was reintroduced here unnecessarily and inaccurately. Can we now move on and stick to the subject of this thread.
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Comments like these tend to overlook that we are guests on this site and even if the truth hurts, that doesn’t entitle us to use the site as a personal platform and cause possible embarrassment (or even legal liability) for our hosts. In this case the moderator has given a very clear indication of their wishes. They are entitled to expect those to be respected.
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Winchester Cathedral Organ Festival
Rowland Wateridge replied to Rowland Wateridge's topic in The Organ
A reminder that Olivier Latry’s inaugural recital following restoration of the Cathedral organ takes place tomorrow, Saturday 27th April at 6.30 pm. These are the programme details: Eugène GIGOUT (1844 – 1925) : Grand Chœur dialogué Camille SAINT-SAËNS (1835 – 1921) : Extracts from The Carnival of the Animals (Tr. Shin-Young LEE) – Aquarium – Aviary – The Swan Johann Sebastian BACH (1685 – 1750) : Prelude and Fugue in E minor BWV 548 Louis VIERNE (1870 – 1937) : Troisième Symphonie : Adagio Jehan ALAIN (1911 – 1940) : Aria Marcel DUPRÉ (1886 – 1971) : Prelude and Fugue in G minor op. 7/3 Olivier LATRY (1962 – ) : Improvisation- 9 replies
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What does BBC Radio 3 have AGAINST the organ ?
Rowland Wateridge replied to John Furse's topic in General discussion
Update on Olivier Latry’s recital: Saturday 27th April at 6.30 pm Eugène GIGOUT (1844 – 1925) : Grand Chœur dialogué Camille SAINT-SAËNS (1835 – 1921) : Extracts from The Carnival of the Animals (Tr. Shin-Young LEE) – Aquarium – Aviary – The Swan Johann Sebastian BACH (1685 – 1750) : Prelude and Fugue in E minor BWV 548 Louis VIERNE (1870 – 1937) : Troisième Symphonie : Adagio Jehan ALAIN (1911 – 1940) : Aria Marcel DUPRÉ (1886 – 1971) : Prélude et fugue en Sol mineur op. 7/3 Olivier LATRY (1962 – ) : Improvisation -
What does BBC Radio 3 have AGAINST the organ ?
Rowland Wateridge replied to John Furse's topic in General discussion
Saint-Saëns can be heard played live by Olivier Latry at Winchester Cathedral this week. I don’t know which work by S-S. The programme includes music by Bach, Gigout, Vierne and Alain so, understandably, French works predominate. Additionally Olivier Latry will improvise - an opportunity to hear him not to be missed by those who can come: Saturday 27th April at 6.30 pm. -
I think your assumption is correct. The latest information I have found on the Church website (incidentally a very impressive one) indicated as recently as last month “In 2025 we will be installing a four-manual pipe organ, currently in use in St John’s College Chapel, Cambridge, and are amid a major fundraising campaign to pay for the organ’s renovation and installation.”