Phil T
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Over the last two or three months, I have heard (in confidence) from several (well-known) people who have been approached about this job and told the head-hunters exactly where they can put it. Whoever eventually succumbs to present blandishments, they are inheriting a seriously difficult situation as well as the opportunity of a lifetime.
The Gloucester appointment turned out to be a clever one, without any of our help*. Let us hope that this one works out well too.
*The pre-publicity and/or leaks etc. about St.John's Cambridge were thoroughly inappropriate and badly managed IMHO.
With so many turning down St Paul’s, where is seen as the top place these days?
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Since when did batteries write music? Shouild this not be Widor we're talking about?
Peter
I’m fairly sure contrabordun was, and I definitely was, being a little childish. Sorry.
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No. Because we brought these Viscounts from Wolverhampton Organ Centre . Although they sold them through the dealership for Viscount in Watford. ... [edited by moderator] manufacturers should design their organ so the fuses are easy to get at should one go in and emergency. So u could probably change one if u have some to hand .
The fuses aren’t easy to get at for safety reasons. If the fuse has blown because of an equipment problem, chances are the replacement fuse will also blow. If the replacement fuse is the wrong rating (too high), then you could damage the organ and/or organist. It’s better to have the organ checked out before replacing the fuse.
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No there's only one Toccata. You must be getting mixed up with the similarly named Stoccato by Vidor.
Is that the Vidor V stoccato? My mistake.
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I thought everyone knew there are only two toccatas, one by Bach and one by Widor.
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An interesting and unexpected appointment - not one of the usual suspects.
I wonder if the appointment made with the three choirs festival in mind? His previous experience would suggest so.
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But, frankly, when you listen to it objectively, it is structurally very weak.
It may be structurally weak, but I’ve always found it an inspiring piece. Some times it’s better to just immerse yourself in the music rather than analyse it. Use the music as a vehicle to take you closer to God, inspire, encourage etc.
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A lay clerk told me that they were at the shortlist stage - two cathedral organists and two singers.
No names,no pack drill!
I always thought that having a singer as DoM was a good idea. A friend of mine mentioned that it could (has, but he wouldn’t say were) lead to power struggles as to who is the premier musician. I guess a lot of it comes down to the personalities of those involved.
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A little late, but Happy Easter to you all.
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I've heard it is often played too fast, so what is the correct speed?
J
The marking on the score is crotchet = 118, if that’s any help? I think there is a tendency for people to play it too fast.
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Looks like we haven't put our clocks forward, Mr Mander! :angry:
Time is a man made concept, what time would you like it to be Peter?
Considering that this amazing service is free, I'm sure we can all be paitent, can't we?Manders do other things besides run a discussion forum.
We should thank Mr Mander for providing and allowing us to use this splendid forum for free.
Thank you Mr Mander.
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But surely there must be some feedback system, otherwise we will never grow in our roles?
I can see the point of some form of feedback, but question the ability of the average church goer (PCC or not) to appraise a DOM/Organist.
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In any case, what qualifications does the churchwarden have to judge the music of the church? How can (s)he know how well you - or for that matter any of the other staff - are doing your jobs? The process may end up judging not competence, but merely "what we like".
My very first thought, when reading this thread, was the appraisals would be used as a method of introducing styles of music not previously played/sung. I hope I’m wrong.
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Recently on this forum attention has been brought to the fact that some rock stars began life as classically taught musicians
Peter
I’m probably wrong, but weren’t most of Queen classically trained?
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Didn’t it come out on this board recently that the organ at Truro isn’t as original (voicing) as is led to believe? Was this proven?
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Also, the high current consumption, which is maintained while the pallet is held open, gives rise to appreciable local heating which could become an issue.
Paul
You also have to look at what is doing the current switching (turning on/off the solenoid). Tied into this is method of transmission from console to wind chest. If the transmission uses modern digital techniques then the o/p from whatever processor being used is likely to have a very limited current capacity. You would have to build a driving device capable of switching high currents, more expense, more power needed, bigger power supplies etc etc
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The virtue of an electro-pneumatic action is that the electric component reacts very quickly indeed - a small chest magnet simply exhausts a power motor; an appropriate-sized power motor then shifts absolutely any size of pallet without strain. All this happens extremely promptly. The electricity consumption of such a stystem is very low and the inertia/momentum question is not a problem either. Some purely electric pulldown magnets do not give a comparable performance* and consume a lot of current.
*These heavy-duty solenoids are increasingly used in dual action/dual console situations. I imagine that there are very good ones on the market, and there are bound to be several styles that I have no practical experience of but (in practice) I still believe that the performance of an electro-pneumatic system ought to beat them for both response and repetition.
Some physicist would be able to tell you exactly why, but I think mass and/or momentum are the key to it.
Without seeing the solenoids, the following is a guess. The larger the solenoid, the larger it’s associated electro-magnet. An electro-magnet is essentially an inductor. An inductor opposes current flow through it (back emf), it likes to be either on, or off (very simplified). Back emf in a solenoid would tend to slow the solenoids response.
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I think 107 v 24 fits the bill
these see the works of the LORD,
and his wonders in the deep.
Ah yes, the submariners verse.
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Ah now....
What is your opinion on the Grand Cornet of 32' effect [as installed by Comptons at Downside, Fleet Street and several other large organs and copied elsewhere by others]? For me, most of these are very effective indeed - provided that one does not try to draw them too early. Once decent 16' reeds are 'on', one of these is a very fair replacement for a soft 32' reed and practically no expense at all.
I’ve never come across the “Grand Cornet of 32’ effect” so sadly can’t make any comment on the subject. If it works and sounds “right” then it’s worth doing I guess? How do you achieve the effect?
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The effect of the resultant 64p at Liverpool (at the end of a quiet piece) was distinctly odd - it seemed to give a vaguely out-of-tune rumble. Certainly it was better when just the quiet 32p flues were used.
I’ve never liked acoustic bases; I’ve never heard one that sounded “right”.
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... And now we are all confused....
For some of us that doesn’t take much!!!
(was talking about myself)
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Adrian, I know you can't give away an awful lot about the Nave organ but I noticed on the old organ there is a Gravissima 64'. Will there be a provision for this stop on the new nave organ?I thought that was disconnected yonks ago? What would you use it for?
R
The lower octave of the “Gravissima” was acoustic. There is no mention of when this stop was removed or disconnected in the information I’ve got, but there is no mention of it post 1978.
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Messiaen. Indoctrinate the child quickly.Absolutely. Give 'em Les eaux de la grâce.
Why not go one step further and play Passacaglia from "Lady Macbeth of Mstensk" by Shostakovich?
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Whoever was the "msucial advisor" to this appalling publication, they deserve to be stripped of any musical qualification they are unlikely to have; or was it a way around various copyrights, I wonder?
MM
Funny that you say that, I’ve often thought exactly the same thing. Who was the “musical advisor”, anybody know?
Stephen Cleobury
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Ah, a singer. Interesting.