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Peter Clark

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  1. Recitals

    Would it be a good idea for forum members to advertise here recitals they are giving in the near future so that others in their area (or even beyond) could come along to offer support and maybe even raise a glass or two afterwards? Just a thought..... Peter
  2. Mandelion - John Tavener

    I got this score from Musicroom today and must say I am disappointed. Not with the music itself, but the presentation. It is basically a reproduction of the composer's own manuscript (first draft I reckon) in a somewhat scrawled hand, and difficult to read in many places. The spacing of the ledger lines in the script is totally inconsistent, accidentals are not always in line with the note they modify, and the verticle alignment of simultaneously sounding chords/notes is not always accurate. I think that these days with so many music origination programmes on the market publishing houses such as these could spend a litle time in getting their products in a readable condition. This cost me £13.95, and I intend to write to the distributer and the publisher about their not carryimg a health warning. Is this worth doing? Do any other contributers have similar experiences? Peter
  3. Sanctuary (TV show)

    Greetings everyone;this is the latest of my one of my now increasingly infrequent submissions to this forum, but only because health is not good. Not looking for sympathy but what I am looking for is the score for the heme tune of the TV series Sanctary which aired about 35 years ago, set in a convent. I do not know who wrote the music. Any help please? Thanks Peter
  4. Mismatched Tunes

    Our instrumental group, with which I am not associated, sang Come Thou Long Expected Jesus to the tune of Now the Carnival is Over in Advent. And really, I'm sorry I haven't a clue why. Any improvement on that? P
  5. (early) festive flippancy

    Have you ever noticed how many well-known organists have surnames ending with 'ton"? Smon f Adrian Pariingtonton Carleton Etherington David Titterington Iain Farrington Nichols Kynaston Any more? Peterton
  6. Christopher Steel

    All good things come to an end, including my periodic silences, so here I go with another volley of, as it were, folly. I bought the score of Steel's Changing Moods recently (for which Banks are to be congratulated; I made my order by phone on Friday afternoon and it was in my hands the next day), mainly for the final movement, Dancing Toccat, an excellent romp. However I am unsure of what to make of the other four movements. They strike me as being very much in the tradition of British organ music of the 60s to 80s in a sub-Matthias kind of way, angular and not always possessing much sense of direction. What does occur to me though is that the harmonic language of the first four movements is at odds with that of the Dancing Toccata. I wonder therefore if the Toccata was written first and the other pieces later in order to make it a sellable "value for money" volume? Thoughts, anyone? Peter
  7. I have recently started learning this piece, almost certainly dating from Messiaen's student days, and I note fron the accompanying booklet to Gillian Weir's recording that there are a number of misprints in the published score which she rectified for her recording. Some are obvious eg tenuto rather than staccato in the final section. Does anyone have information on other misprints? Thanks in advance Peter
  8. St Peter's Roath Cardiff

    Tomorrow (17th Sept) St Peter's in Roath, Cardiff, is holding an open day adn the organ gallery will be open for anyone who wants to see/play the organ. I will be around all day (except for a lunch break) and hope to see some of you there. Peter ps for satnavers the postcode is CF24 3BA
  9. I play regularly at St Alban's in Cardiff and in fact am due to give a recital there in a few weeks. One thing that I have been aware of over the years that I have played there is that the keys are slightly narrower than standard (which on the plus side means that chords over the octave or tenth are more comfortable to play) and I wonder if this is common. The organ was rescued from a redundant Baptist church in the vicinity and recently restored by Deane; but for some reason the church wanted to retain the original console* which as I said does not seem to conform to standard dimensions. It is not uncomfortable once you get used to the variation just mentioned (and the pedalboard seems to be standard RCO). Was there a time when manual dimenions were eventually standardised and are there other examples around of "deviations" from what we now would consider the norm? Peter *perhaps for financial reasons
  10. Holy Horrors

    MM are we talking about the same Immaculate Mary here? The one I refer to is in 3/4 and contains such priceless sentiments as "We pray for God's glory, may his kingdom come! We pray his Vicar, our Father and Rome" . Now Mary Immaculate, star of the morning to Bach's harmonisations, that's a different thing entirely. Peter
  11. Holy Horrors

    PS on The Servant King (not Song, sorry) - there is also that ghastly tritone in the refrain. (and a suggested descant which sounds like it is from the soundtrack of a 1960s sc-fi B movie.) P
  12. Holy Horrors

    Dear Lord and Father is a beautiful hymn, an almost perfect match of words and music (though some irreverent people refer to it as the constipation hymn.) Does anyone know/use Charles Ives' setting of one of the verses, Serenity? I don't care for Immaculate Mary, which a bit sectarian in this ecumenical age, and the refrain has a once again dreadful example of word setting - a-VEEH, a-VEEH, a-VEEH Mari-AHHH.... How Great Thou Art, as I have remarked elsewhere, promotes a questionable expatiation theology, though the tune is very strong and it is always well sung. I am unsure about Amazing Grace. Knowing the circumstaces which propmpted is composition (and having seen the excellent film) helps in how moving this can be, but I can't also help feeling the tune is lacking something, and a succesful hymn has rto be a marriahe of good words and good music. Make me a Channel is anodyne. I canot see anything actually wrong with it and certainly the sentiments cannot be faulted but the music is simply not very interesting. Morning has Broken. Why do wedding couples want to sing a Christmas Carol at 3.00 on a Saturday afternoon in July? Peter
  13. Holy Horrors

    I Watch the Sunrise - bad tune which is never sung properly and words which hardly constitute a hymn. The Servant Song (From heaven you came....) with abominable word setting in the refrain - ....humble offer-RING we bring them TOOO the Servant King. This caused one well known liturgical musician to question whether English was the writer/compposer's first language. Bring Flowers of the Rarest If I were a wriggly worm The Lord looked down from his window in the sky Which Be Still do you mean though? Be Still and Know or Be Still for the Presence of the Lord? If the latter, I think this one of the best comtemopary hymns. The Lord's my Shepherd to Crimond with that awful pause between lines 2 and 3 (though I can never play the other tune without imagining Edward Woodward in The Wicker Man!) More to come I hope! Peter
  14. Descriptions

    The 32' at Llandaff is a sock-knocker-offer (I know because when I used it for the first time I thought the cathedral was about to collapse!) so they have a quint to make sure that the building stays intact. I used it on paged two of Howells PP 1, last system, just the one note as indicated. Great feeling! P
  15. St Alban's, Splott, Cardiff

    I am certainly not advocating getting rid of it! I love it these days. As I said, one can adapt to it quite quickly. Also it is of historical interest. Tomorrow I am going to try some other music on it, maybe the Yon Toccata for flutes which I think will work well (the organ has no mutations but two mixtures, great and swell, the former needs to be used only now and then as I think it a bit fierce, as is the Great 2', but the swell 8 and 2 combined is most effective). On the bummer side, my regular chuch, St Peter's Roath, was targetted by lead thieves at the weekend and so the damage to the roof caused rain to get onto the organ gallery. No real harm thankfully but the pedalboard had to be removed as water was getting under it. The most harm seems to have been done to the porch. Tony N and others have said that this is not uncommon these days. Vandalism seems rife though. When I got home about an hour ago I found that someone had put dog poo (or possibly worse) into my food recycling bin. Swines, ignorant and antisocial bleeps. Not really our forum's remit but just wanted to let off steam! Peter
  16. St Alban's, Splott, Cardiff

    Another problem is that the fourth finger can inadvertantly glance the manual above if the overhang is too great! Peter
  17. St Alban's, Splott, Cardiff

    The 8th bar ort the Litanie section in Dupre's Cortege et L:itanie has a very awkward LH - from tenor B to low G# but with a tenor G# and D# as well.I find this easier with a coupled pedal but no pedal stop suppplying the lower G# and then bringing the pedal 16 (still coupled) on for the next bar. However on the St Alban's organ (and, Tony N, I will provide a full spec soon, if not a history) this LH bar is unproblematic. Peter
  18. Recitals

    Paul Hale at St German's. Cardiff on Wednesday 15 June, 7.30. I have no details of the programme yet. Peter
  19. The Organist Entertains

    I think, H, that we have sufficient evidence to support the view that Carrick does not possess the grace and tact to voice his or her disagreements with other forum members in a civilised fashion. We organists (and other valued contibutors here) will inevitably collide on certain issues but I have always found that when this happens it happens with courtesy, sensitivity and in a spirit of mutualy supportive friendship. I think that this thread should either be locked, or that Carrick should withdraw from the discussion board - or perhaps be withdrawn. And given his or her asterisked expletives, not to mention his or her overall offensive tone, I am surprised that the latter has not yet happened. Peter
  20. The Organist Entertains

    The point surely is not one of discussing the merits of Curley or Dixon but the langauge used. Yiou can love Carlo and Reg or you can hate them (or at least their playing) but introducing ad hominem arguments with words such as "snobbish" or "disgrace" is not acceptable. What is snobbish anyway? I love Bach, Messiaen, Dupre; I also love Bob Dylan, Tom Waits and The Beatles. There are organists who do not like the last three. There are pop fans who do not like the former trio. Are the non-likers of the former any more snobbish than their likers, or the non-likers of the second trinity more snobbish than the likers? I am not a G&S fan. Some organists I know are. Does that make me a snob? I am a Miles Davis and fan. Some organists I know are not. Does that make them snobbish? I am also a Dr Who and Star Trek fan. Some organists I know.... and so on. The only disgrace this forum has suffered recently is the description of it as being a disgrace. Which it is not. Peter
  21. The Organist Entertains

    Hear hear! Having been an active member of this forum for quite a few years now I have rarely seen anything approaching the implied condemnation of the vast majority of its participants by applying the word "disgrace". Had I been a moderator the remarks from Carrick would have attracted my censure long before now. I feel that it may be time for the moderating team to take some action. Peter
  22. The Organist Entertains

    Possibly. There seems to be a cold front though surrounding Manderville, but a sudden surge of moderation would be welcome. P
  23. The Organist Entertains

    MM, I, and I am sure others. would love to see these pieces of yours of which you speak. Any chance of that? For my money, John Giacci takes some beating though Richard Hills' Tiger Rag which you posted in phemomenal. Peter
  24. 64' pipes

    Somebody asked me today about 64' pipes and their purpose and frankly I could't answer to any degree of satisfaction. So is there a real pont to them or are they in reality just a flippant, expensive fancy? And how do you tune them?! Peter
  25. Pieces we struggled with

    Dupre Cortege et Litanie. Fine until halfway down page 5 when the feet have to leap about in jumps of a fifth. But then most peoples' problems begin there so I am told by one who has recorded it (on YouTube). Even now I can only guarantee an accurate rendering of this passage about 7 times out of 10. This I put down partially to a mental block I seem to have acquired about this section of the piece. But that's probably a topic for another thread. The individual parts are not tricky (though the RH part seems to defy any attempt at anything like legato though my teacher told me that a detached affect is what the composer probably intended. The LH part is just a series of chords and the pedal part on its own is not difficult, but it's the playing of all three simultaneously. The bottom line of page 7 and the top of page 8 - those repeated top bs in the pedal rarely seem to come off totally error-free. That'll do for now I'm sure. I look forward to reading other members' contributions to what looks like being an interesting thread and one in which we might not impossibly offer suggestions. Peter
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