Ian Ball Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 Didn't Herrick Bunney play Rachmaninov 3 under Sir Malcom Sargent? I'm sure I remember reading that somewhere... GTB gave the UK première, didn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwv572 Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 GTB gave the UK première, didn't he? You're right: he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Robinson Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 There's an interesting one. Speaking for myself, I am quite mediocre as a Pianist. I lack much of the extra control needed to sound musical. Organ and piano are totally different, and obviously require totally different approaches. I admire those who can manage both. R I admire those who can manage either! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
contrabordun Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 I remember it still........... "Piano: it's the way you put your fingers ON the keys; Organ: it's way you take them OFF." DW Some of us are still more worried about where, not how we put our fingers on the keys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Goldrick Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 GTB gave the UK première, didn't he? I believe GTB was the first Englishman to play it. Rachmaninoff gave the UK première himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Willis Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 I believe GTB was the first Englishman to play it. Rachmaninoff gave the UK première himself. I'm afraid not - GTB did give the first UK performance, at The Royal College of Music. DW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Willis Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 I believe GTB was the first Englishman to play it. Rachmaninoff gave the UK première himself. Apologies - you're quite right and therefore proof that we shouldn't rely on others' records of such things I've been sleuthing (actually, a conversation with the archivist at the RCM did the trick!): The first AND second performances in the UK were by indeed given by Rachmaninov himself - the first in Liverpool in October 1911 under the baton of one Simon Speilman; the second on the 7th of November 1911 at the Queens Hall, London under Mengelberg. The Thalben performance was, as James G says, the first by an Englishman, at the RCM on the 13th December 1915. This doesn't of course dilute the matter of GTB's abilities in that direction. DW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
innate Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 Apologies - you're quite right and therefore proof that we shouldn't rely on others' records of such things I've been sleuthing (actually, a conversation with the archivist at the RCM did the trick!): The first AND second performances in the UK were by indeed given by Rachmaninov himself - the first in Liverpool in October 1911 under the baton of one Simon Speilman; the second on the 7th of November 1911 at the Queens Hall, London under Mengelberg. The Thalben performance was, as James G says, the first by an Englishman, at the RCM on the 13th December 1915. This doesn't of course dilute the matter of GTB's abilities in that direction. DW Well done on the research, David. Now who's going to correct Wikipedia (see the History section)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iy45 Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 The Thalben performance was, as James G says, the first by an Englishman, at the RCM on the 13th December 1915. Sorry to be pedantic, but are you sure GTB was an Englishman? Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notebasher Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Sorry to be pedantic, but are you sure GTB was an Englishman? Ian According to Jonathan Rennert's book GTB was born in Sydney of Cornish parents, returned to UK aged three. I don't know what that made him - technically Australian I would think. R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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