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Dr Nigel H Day

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  1. Not encouraging news for Leeds. Paul lasted less than three years. I did hear there is an 'issue' in the Diocese because Ripon and Wakefield Cathedrals (naturally) want to support their traditional music foundations, and Leeds may therefore have to 'cater' for the less traditional forms of music and worship. If this is true, it is a sad end to the long tradition of music at 'Leeds Parish Church' (sorry, I can't get used to calling it Leeds Minster).
  2. Did anyone record this concert off Radio 3 ? I intended to do this, but I've missed the '30 day' time limit.
  3. I did not appreciate my original posting would create such a discussion. We can probably all cite examples to support the 'cost arguments' either way. I suspect on grounds of musicality we are united in supporting pipes. I would like to offer the following example from Nottinghamshire which dates back to the early 1980's. It's interesting, so read on. Beeston, St John the Baptist. http://www.npor.org.uk/NPORView.html?RI=N13530 In 1983 the pipe organ was replaced by a 3-manual Makin. My late friend Brian Tennyson was appointed organist shortly after this date. He was horrified to see the array of rotaphon speakers in the old organ chamber. Brian was a colourful character, and his words were choice ! I believe the cost of this organ was about £16,500. It has NOT lasted. In 2008 (25 years from new), it was replaced by a new 2-manual Rodgers. http://www.beestonparishchurch.co.uk/choir/page4/ I wonder if this Rodgers organ will be replaced in around 2033 ? Chilwell, Christ Church. http://www.npor.org.uk/NPORView.html?RI=N01414 This is a Nigel Church installation from 1984. It cost in the region of £20,000. It is still there. Some of you might be wondering so what ? Well, it is precisely 0.5 miles (10 minutes walk) between these two churches. They both faced the same problem in 1983/84 in needing to replace/repair their existing pipe organs. They chose totally different routes. The most important point to note is that the spend in 1983/84 was virtually the same. Granted, the Nigel Church organ has no enclosed division, but I know which I would rather play. The economic argument for an electronic is simply unsustainable when the electronic costs approximately the same as an alternative pipe organ. Quantity or quality ? Now, 2015 comparative costs may well be different from 1983/84, but there are still churches today who will spend serious money on 'toasters' when they could -- with very careful design -- make the case for a small pipe organ. On the other issue of some trackers being not particularly reliable, I think we are probably past this problem. In the early days of UK tracker organ design and build, there were shortcuts and cost savings made which, today, are recognised as having being false economy. The established Continental builders generally have a better track record, the Nottingham Marcussens from 1973/74 being one example of quality by design. UK builders have learnt the early lessons of tracker design and are now fully able to compete for business world-wide.
  4. This most certainly cannot apply if you are comparing electronic organs to modern tracker organs. Perhaps the electrical contacts on an electric action keyboard will be a susceptible to dust as the 'similar' contacts on a 'toaster', but for tracker action -- NO.
  5. The discussion over stop lists has been interesting, but of course the final verdict must await completion in 2017. It is not just the stop list however, but also the scaling, voicing and tonal finishing within the Abbey. In my view it is to be celebrated that we have the first UK installation of a Ruffatti organ. The budget of £2.5m (is this actually true, or a rumour ?) is substantial. The final results will be the responsibility of Ian Bell, Philip Arkwright and Ruffatti. There have been some examples of foreign organ builders installing wonderful organs of their own style which have not been altogether too successful when judged for suitability as vehicles for accompanying the English choral tradition. Now Buckfast perhaps comes a little outside this 'tradition', but nonetheless the final verdict will be to judge how it delivers against the requirements of the build specification (this being a small 's' and not a stop list !). I wish the team well and look forward to 2017.
  6. Thanks all for your replies, some 'cryptic', some more open. I was only asking because of the nature of the FB posting where the author really didn't want to name the Cathedral in question. I'm not sure why. If it's a dud toaster, then let the world know. I respect this Forum is not for discussion of toasters, but what I do strongly believe is that churches need to be 'educated' on the matter of longevity of electronic instruments. They have been successfully employed as short-term solutions during dedicated fund-raising for a pipe organ rebuild / replacement, but as a permanent replacement for a pipe organ, no. You are merely passing the replacement cost on to the next generation. Far better to bequeath a pipe organ.
  7. I've just read a FB comment regarding an 'un-named' Cathedral where the 2-manual Victorian organ has been replaced (but not removed - it is still played) by a 3-manual electronic. The author did not want to name the said Cathedral. Apparently the electronic is not too successful. Does anyone know where this is ? Nothing springs to mind, but it could be an RC Cathedral, which tend to be less well-known. It could be overseas, of course, but the author is UK-based.
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