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http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/12/18/new.york.fire/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathedral_of_...John_the_Divine http://www.quimbypipeorgans.com/wkprog.htm Keep reading!

I thought the 'string' division would be located near the lingerie

You're right, but this goes for any instrument.

Didn't W.... have a Gravissima 64' once upon a time ???

They add weight as said above, but it differs what kind of stop it is - a high pressure diaphone will shake the floor/building probably more than something flue-acoustique ... Further, in a 'giant' stoplist it may show like the penultimate stop - 'nothing left to whish for' For Atlantic City you might listen these samples. Though they are in mp3 and not all stops available ( ). For Sidney Town Hall sample check out this site. Speaking prompt eyh mate ??

Just for the record (or CD rather), the recordings by Kynaston in Westminster Cathedral (Dupré evocation & sinfonie2, Duruflé suite) is available on CD - I bought it last december at Saturn in Köln, on the MITRA label nr. CD16250. So if you can't get it by the web, get over to ze Hansaring and get ze cd overzere ... And check out the Dom-organs afterwards - it is said to take just a little while until the new chamades at 1000mm windpressure (!) are placed at the west-end.

I thought it was the diaphone rank of 64' length, pictures are on this site. Does it add something? well, listening to the final part of 'Ad nos' where the 64' kicks in (so they say), the bass stands well against the volume of the rest, deep and profound. Maybe an exponent of what was there once in a not to be revealed English city so much debated on this site?

Look foor them here I like these thing for study, playing them is another thing - one is not Cochereau, the organ not NDdP in the 1970's. But just imagine that this material 'simply' arose when the great Pierre sat down and drew some stops ....

Yep, there it is: Godwin's law ...... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law

Get the DVD - it's nice ... I would also preferred more footage of Cochereau, but it gives a good impression. Certainly the summertour with the Hartmann-positiv and the improvisationclass in ND is good fun. Just see how the scherzo-symphonique on the flutes-harmoniques is tried by a young Maurice Clerc and then the great Pierre plays an example - if you ever wanted to get a minority complex it would have been that moment (one pities MC); absolutely stunningly brilliant (no sign of 'showing off' though).

I'd like a copy of that ...

Not to mention the fourth 32' (you must understand young hobbit, it takes a long time to say anything in Old Entish, broo-ra-room...)

Hmmm, sounds interesting - you don't happen to know an eccentric billionaire who might fund an organ for St.Peter's?

Hmmm, the site seems to have gone, wonder what that means for the organ(s) ....

Steve, I'm sorry if the word 'beasts' offended you - it was not intended, English is not my native language and sometimes one failes the right word/expression. As you may have understood from Pierre's reply, I dó have an interest in the British/American organ, and I would certainly be very interested to see an organbuilder like i.e. Dobson build a GrandOrgan for St. Peter - Rome. Maybe our collection of 'worldclass' organs here in the Netherlands may be seen as 'more of the same', but our country is somewhat smaller than the US (but maybe the term 'wordclass' can also be used on (very) small historical organs in fine shape of which we have a _lot_), I certainly agree with Pierre that we're missing a good (and large) Skinner (like Girard College, or St.John-the-Divine, NYC) overhere.

II - swell *stopped diapason 8 (round tone with much fundament) dulciane 8 (like a soft diapason) voix céleste 8 (like the dulciane) *gemshorn 4 (a small(er) scale principal) mixture III (soft) *oboe 8 I - great *open diapason 8 (to add 'power' to fulls-well, sounding rather 'old') *lieblich gedeckt 8 (open, clear tone) *principal 4 (with a pronounced 1st harmonic) P *bourdon 16 (round tone, very fundamental) I+II 16/8/4 I+I 16/4 II+II 16/4 P+I P+II Very much like my own William Hill & Sons opus 2324 (*stops)

Hmm, it may be that this 'next generation' is well educated and just simply understands what the St. Paul's Willis/Mander is about and subsequently respect and use it like we're used to respect and use the baroque organs we have overhere. For sure - no living soul would want to add the likes of quoted (in my opnion) insanities to musical monuments as Grauhof, Weingarten, St. Maximin, Haarlem or Alkmaar (to name just 5). So why on earth dó add them to St.Paul's? One also wouldn't pimp a DB9, would one? And if you allow me, I don't exactly call myself 'conservative' and I'm not English either.

Maybe it's just me, but last time I heard St.Paul's (La Nativite by Scott), I didn't realy miss these proposed addtions .... Surely, enough is enough, isn't it?

Don't like that denomination - there is 'Cochereau' and many who try to imitate him, but one always heres when the great Pierre is playing ... You might also try this and/or this. Very interesting!

Well go on, say it! W..c....r

or like Nasard, or Tierce, or Gedeckt, or Voix Celeste, or Spitz flute, or Cor Anglais (!) But we'll see what this new organ will become, shoud it fail to deliver, the words sack and butt will be used in another context ....

Funny, in a way I get the feeling it's has much similarities to what is already there, on the other hand I get a feeling that there's something (for us continentals europeans) typically english missing such as multiple open diapasons one manual. And what is a 'sackbut 32' (and why would you want/need one, if you have a trumpet 32' and a diaphone 32 (though muted) 'in situ')?

Well, John Scott playing La Nativite du Seigneur by Messiaen at St.Paul's made me cross the Northsea in 2002 & 2003. Hearing John Eliot Gardiner and The Monteverdi choir with Bach cantatas made me race to Muhlhausen in Thuringen (Germany) - a once in a lifetime concert for sure ... Things like that ...

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