sotto Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 The protracted Worcester saga certainly gave us all plenty to talk about. Initially some contributors were able to express their fondness for the old organ, subsequently we were able to follow in considerable detail progress on its replacement, and finally members were able to comment on, and in some cases, play the new instrument. It all seems to have gone a bit dull now! A bit a controversy certainly makes life interesting! Cant someone persuade Salisbury that they really need a new Klais, or Truro that neo-baroque is clearly the way forward. We need a cause to get behind I feel. How about suggesting a campain to drop a bomb upon the west end organ of St Mary's Warwick, or is that just too radical? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre Lauwers Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 "We need a cause to get behind I feel." (Quote) I can suggest some if you want.... (Neo-baroque ? Very outmoded indeed. I'd propone something else) Pierre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcnd5584 Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 ... How about suggesting a campain to drop a bomb upon the west end organ of St Mary's Warwick, or is that just too radical? I agree that we need something new - but I doubt that anyone would miss this instrument; possibly not even Pierre. Now Truro; that is an interesting idea.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre Lauwers Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 I agree that we need something new - but I doubt that anyone would miss this instrument; possibly not even Pierre. Now Truro; that is an interesting idea.... What about a big Blockwerk in Winborne ? This is something missing in the european jigsaw. We need some good gothic organs. Pierre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcnd5584 Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 What about a big Blockwerk in Winborne ? This is something missingin the european jigsaw. We need some good gothic organs. Pierre Ha - I know you are only joking, Pierre.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
innate Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 What about a big Blockwerk in Winborne ? This is something missingin the european jigsaw. We need some good gothic organs. Pierre The obvious place for a big gothic Blockwerk is a historical reconstruction in Winchester. If the instrument can't be heard 10 miles away the builder doesn't get paid! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre Lauwers Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 The obvious place for a big gothic Blockwerk is a historical reconstruction in Winchester. If the instrument can't be heard 10 miles away the builder doesn't get paid! And to be played with the wristles ! Pierre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre Lauwers Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 ....And now, besides jokes, ladies and gentlemen: we just had a discussion on the french forum about that matter, and came to the conclusion that the reconstitution of a partial Blockwerk organ, with independant more solistic stops, like Titelouze knew in Rouen, would be quite interesting. Provided it would not take the place of any other organ, of courrrrrse, be it from any period from the antiquity to nowadays. Pierre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Echo Gamba Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 The obvious place for a big gothic Blockwerk is a historical reconstruction in Winchester. If the instrument can't be heard 10 miles away the builder doesn't get paid! Are the Wimborne chamades audible in Winchester? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbarber49 Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 It all seems to have gone a bit dull now! A bit a controversy certainly makes like interesting! Cant someone persuade Salisbury that they really need a new Klais, or Truro that neo-baroque is clearly the way forward. We need a cause to get behind I feel. Wasn't there a plan a year or two back to replace the organ in King's with something more in tune with the Zeitgeist? Perhaps someone here would like to design a suitable instrument. Stephen Barber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcnd5584 Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 Are the Wimborne chamades audible in Winchester? Unfortunately not - but I did once hear them in a shop (Square Records), about sixty yards away. To be fair, it was summer and there was no background music playing in the shop, but even so.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcnd5584 Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 Wasn't there a plan a year or two back to replace the organ in King's with something more in tune with the Zeitgeist? Perhaps someone here would like to design a suitable instrument. Stephen Barber Apparently this may still happen - if, of course, the rumours are correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwhodges Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 Wasn't there a plan a year or two back to replace the organ in King's with something more in tune with the Zeitgeist? Which version of the Zeitgeist would that be? Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre Lauwers Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 Which version of the Zeitgeist would that be? Paul The belgian, the french, the german or....The british one ? This gives us a wide scope indeed, from Tuba to Trichterregal. Pierre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Coram Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 Can't someone persuade Salisbury that they really need a new Klais... Wrong country, but not very far off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcnd5584 Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 Wrong country, but not very far off. Ummm.... This is still supposed to be a closely guarded secret, David.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre Lauwers Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 I found it! Van den Heuvel. Pierre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcnd5584 Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 I found it!Van den Heuvel. Pierre Which 'it'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre Lauwers Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 Which 'it'? The (dutch) "secret". Pierre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roffensis Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 Apparently this may still happen - if, of course, the rumours are correct. Kings? Oh, why doesn't this surprise me? LOL!! A couple of old flutes are quite nice, but overall a very "glassy" sound to it, certainly not one that I would miss. A bit like like a fat Aunt who has rather too much stuffing at Christmas. R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbarber49 Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 Kings? Oh, why doesn't this surprise me? LOL!! A couple of old flutes are quite nice, but overall a very "glassy" sound to it, certainly not one that I would miss. A bit like like a fat Aunt who has rather too much stuffing at Christmas. R As long as the new one isn't one of those awful equally-tempered things. Stephen Barber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcnd5584 Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 As long as the new one isn't one of those awful equally-tempered things. Stephen Barber In what way? Does this mean you would prefer an instrument tuned to (for example) Werckmeister III? I wonder how that would work with a lot of the romantic repertoire? I heard an evensong from Magdalen College, Oxford, a few years ago. Personally I thought that the accompanimnet to the Howells setting they sang sounded dire - purley because of the 'unequal' temperament tuning. I realise that Howells is not the only thing sung there (or at King's). However, King's do perform the odd bit of Howells, Stanford, Bairstow, etc. To my ears, this never seems to sit well on an instrument with anything other than 'equal' temperament tuning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vox Humana Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 I found it!Van den Heuvel. Pierre Salisbury? I do hope you're joking, Pierre... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre Lauwers Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 One day, maybe, it will be realized to play ancient, romantic and modern "repertoire" (i.e., the music we momentarily like) on the same organ, is a chimera, as would be chips, Caviar, Strawberry cake, Plum Pudding, oysters, corned beef, banana,Chili, pork and eggs cooked in the oven in the same plate, and then served with Chantilly, mint sauce, W... sauce, vinager and ketchup, with as drink a pint of Ale mixed with Sauternes and Vodka. (Well, sorry, I have to go to the tiniest room....) Pierre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Coram Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 One day, maybe, it will be realized to play ancient, romantic and modern"repertoire" (i.e., the music we momentarily like) on the same organ, is a chimera, as would be chips, Caviar, Strawberry cake, Plum Pudding, oysters, corned beef, banana,Chili, pork and eggs cooked in the oven in the same plate, and then served with Chantilly, mint sauce, W... sauce, vinager and ketchup, with as drink a pint of Ale mixed with Sauternes and Vodka. (Well, sorry, I have to go to the tiniest room....) Pierre And, whichever one you choose, you will be wrong - in someone's eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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