Nigel Allcoat Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 I am soon to give a talk at a joint Diocesan Seminar concerning Organs, Liturgy & Worship and would greatly appreciate to have photographs to illustrate it. I have a goodly number already from my own travels, but I am certain that there are numerous examples of good re-positionings in re-ordered buildings that I have not seen. But it would also be good to have bad examples that readers might know of too as I should like to give the architects every opportunity to see the best and the worse! If there are any builders who read this and think that they have any pictures that would 'fit the bill' too, I would be so very grateful to have the opportunity to incorporate them. Many thanks in anticipation. Nigel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Newnham Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 I am soon to give a talk at a joint Diocesan Seminar concerning Organs, Liturgy & Worship and would greatly appreciate to have photographs to illustrate it. I have a goodly number already from my own travels, but I am certain that there are numerous examples of good re-positionings in re-ordered buildings that I have not seen. But it would also be good to have bad examples that readers might know of too as I should like to give the architects every opportunity to see the best and the worse! If there are any builders who read this and think that they have any pictures that would 'fit the bill' too, I would be so very grateful to have the opportunity to incorporate them. Many thanks in anticipation. Nigel Hi Most of the churches round here that have re-ordered have disposed of organs. There is one that would fit the bill of "how not to do it" - Haworth Baptist Church's building has been split at gallery level - leaving the attached organ console in a pit at the front of the sanctuary. Unfortunately, I don't have a picture and at present there's little chance of me arranging to get one (health problems). Every Blessing Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Harvey Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 How about Parramata Cathedral in Australia? That's a very modern, architect-designed building. It houses a 1900s Norman & Beard organ in a new case. I've heard it's a success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJJ Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 Is this: http://www.npor.org.uk/cgi-bin/Rsearch.cgi...ec_index=R01679 any good? More of the church here: http://www.hmad.co.uk/stpeterschurch/ 'Vox Humana' probably knows more too. A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Allcoat Posted October 24, 2009 Author Share Posted October 24, 2009 Is this: http://www.npor.org.uk/cgi-bin/Rsearch.cgi...ec_index=R01679 any good? More of the church here: http://www.hmad.co.uk/stpeterschurch/ 'Vox Humana' probably knows more too. A Spot on! I have written to the architects asking for permission and larger format pictures if they agree. And what of the organ after this transformation? Thanks. Nigel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJJ Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 And what of the organ after this transformation? Possibly a more interesting case and console......... A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip J Wells Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 Spot on! I have written to the architects asking for permission and larger format pictures if they agree. And what of the organ after this transformation?Thanks. Nigel There are several pictures of the console on the Renatus web site ( the people who built the console). PJW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vox Humana Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 Is this: http://www.npor.org.uk/cgi-bin/Rsearch.cgi...ec_index=R01679 any good? More of the church here: http://www.hmad.co.uk/stpeterschurch/ 'Vox Humana' probably knows more too. A Spot on! I have written to the architects asking for permission and larger format pictures if they agree. And what of the organ after this transformation?Thanks. Nigel Nigel If you wish I can let you have photos of this organ, including ones of the stop jambs with their lovely, light-reflecting, organist-blinding, shiny aluminium stop knobs. A prize example of how not to design an organ console. A pity about the console, because everything else about the organ - its siting and sound - is excellent (bearing in mind that it is an 11-rank extension organ, with all the limitations that implies). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Coram Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 Nigel If you wish I can let you have photos of this organ, including ones of the stop jambs with their lovely, light-reflecting, organist-blinding, shiny aluminium stop knobs. A prize example of how not to design an organ console. A pity about the console, because everything else about the organ - its siting and sound - is excellent (bearing in mind that it is an 11-rank extension organ, with all the limitations that implies). Does it suffer from having been partially unenclosed at the last rebuild? I rather thought the point of those chambers was to do the sound-projecting job of casework, to keep the dust orf and to keep the tuning consistent whatever else went on around. Sorry, to keep this reply vaguely on topic, how about this place which has been very imaginatively refitted - St Michael's Bath - church site (with virtual tour) St Michael's, Bath NPOR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vox Humana Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 Does it suffer from having been partially unenclosed at the last rebuild? Not to my ears and general opinion here is that, tonally, the instrument is a vast improvement on the previous one. The pipework has been arranged so that the Great has only unenclosed ranks and those of the Swell are entirely enclosed. The Choir borrows from both of these, but also has an unenclosed Salicional rank of its own. It all sounds quite lovely, though you do find yourself running out of tonal variety pretty quickly. The ex-Marlborough Tromba has "brassed" up superbly into a Tuba with real fire (and, as you know, I'm not usually a fan of Tubas). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWAnderson Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 How about Parramata Cathedral in Australia? That's a very modern, architect-designed building. It houses a 1900s Norman & Beard organ in a new case. I've heard it's a success. More about the Norman & Beard here: http://www.ohta.org.au/confs/Sydney/STPATRICKSCath.html Interesting to see that Stephen Bicknell designed the new facade. JA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Godden Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 Nigel You might find the 1903 Keates of Sheffield organ in St Wolfgang Munich worth a look. www.sawoga.net . Peter Godden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Goldrick Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 More about the Norman & Beard here: http://www.ohta.org.au/confs/Sydney/STPATRICKSCath.html Interesting to see that Stephen Bicknell designed the new facade. JA You can hear the Norman & Beard too: Prelude & Fugue in B-flat - Clara Schumann http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcroms9kIOU Grand Choeur - Dubois http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fuEzEk0oIY...feature=related Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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