themythes Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 From Peter Clark (Sorry - I haven't yet sussed the quote bit; I'll work on it during the sermon) Well for a start it just sounds nice! More seriously it seems to provide a "proto-climax" to the tune, heightened by the suspension and resolution into the "extra" bar which demands a slight interruption to the established rythmic pattern. This sense of psychological tension is finally overcome by the conclusion of the tune when it returns to the expected bar-count and home key. Peter, thank you for drawing my attention to your previous comment about “Coe Fen”, of which I was fully aware. I feel that what you have did then was to present an explanation of why you like it, which is not, I contend, what I asked for. It is obvious that you love the tune and that’s absolutely fine by me, but that of itself does not necessarily make it an example of correct musical procedure, any more than my own predilections would justify changing, or wanting to change a composer’s work, such as the 'Scotch Snap' in 'Lord for the Years'. Considered purely as a piece of music, I can see that there are many other examples of the same sort of thing being done elsewhere; my reservation was simply that it may not be the ideal way to ‘design’ a congregational hymn. However, one gathers from others that congregations seem to have no difficulty with it and thus such reservations as I have seem largely unimportant. Given your very carefully thought out reasoning for how musically satisfactory that extra bar is, for you!, how do you feel about the end of the third line of ‘Blaenwern’? I suspect that you would recoil, like everybody else, from the idea of adding an extra bar because we are all used to it as it is, but does it make that modulation to line four any more acceptable? I know that it is possible to cover the worst aspects of the modulation in the last bar of line three, especially in the last verse, but imagine it with the extra bar - I reckon it would have the same impact as the ‘Coe Fen’ tune, and would, I suggest, make even more musical sense. Nevertheless, if called upon to play either hymn, like almost everyone else, I will try to play what the composers wrote. David Harrison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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