Ian Ball Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Ha'peth o'tar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre Lauwers Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Ha'peth o'tar? Na ja, unn' wat bedeitet ? Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre Lauwers Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 "there is no particular reason why an instrument of this size could not have both types of compound stop; perhaps as an alternative to adding yet another big solo reed...." (Quote) This is indeed common sense, but we may understand the matter from another viewpoint. The guy who has a Cadillac 1958 might sometimes dream to drive a Porsche 911, but even with 10,000 hours of tuning you won't get something like that out of the Caddy; same for as characterfull an organ as that one. You won't compete with Alkmaar, Waltershausen, Poitiers,etc, whatever number of neo-baroque high-pitched mixture ranks and "french" reeds (a true joke that one, as we will see below) you might pile from the bottom to the top of the cases, and even over the roofs of them. It will still not be a place to compete in "clarity of the polyphonic textures", to speak like the neo-baroque belgian tribe of the 1980's. But listen to that video again ! We on the french forum were surprised with those incredible chorus reeds -something no big Solo Tuba will never surpass, agreed-, and how french their colors are. This was obtained with other means than Cavaillé-Coll's, no doubt (higher wind pressures, loadings in the bass etc), but the result lends to think that if you british really wanted to have something competitive in the french romantic repertoire, this one could do the job better as any copy you may dream of. And for Vierne, where would be the problem with deeply-pitched tierce and septième Mixtures -whose roots lie somewhere between Weingarten and Notre-Dame, typical with Post-romantic organ designs- ? Go back, again, to the Video, at 6'; you hear there a reed used like an Hautbois, but that would be the grand Trumpet anywhere else, perfectly matched to its acoustic surrounds to the point it makes sing the stones ("elle fait chanter la pierre"); the acoustic sings litterally with, and the magic appears. This is a common trait with all successfull organs, whatever style they belong to. A "keeper" also. And you know how stubborn a flemish historian can be ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre Lauwers Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 A 1906 Mutin in Buenos Aires, Argentina, very well recorded, posted quite recently on Youtube: Part 2.: Pierre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wczerny Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 Amazing permormance (Gillian Weir) Enjoy! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drIp-2z_HnA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzNAWbjhwwc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29ziSIsqwNk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFS_UFCBFdo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5SAdO8FSvE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELR6lDUJbDQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7K5WDzh2oM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4QUbO4D_KU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Robinson Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 Amazing permormance (Gillian Weir) Enjoy! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drIp-2z_HnA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzNAWbjhwwc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29ziSIsqwNk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFS_UFCBFdo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5SAdO8FSvE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELR6lDUJbDQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7K5WDzh2oM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4QUbO4D_KU Thanks for these. I have been trying to find a good recording of the entire series. I did record the original broadcasts on VHS, but it is not the best quality. If only they would broadcast them again, I'd record on to DVD. I'm not holding my breath, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJRoeleveld Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 Yesterday published: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqzKzZLqTKA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKZYeFE1XJ4 Both wellknown pieces, played on famous organs by Marie-Claire Alain, recorded about 25 years ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJJ Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 Amazing permormance (Gillian Weir) Enjoy! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drIp-2z_HnA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzNAWbjhwwc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29ziSIsqwNk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFS_UFCBFdo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5SAdO8FSvE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELR6lDUJbDQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7K5WDzh2oM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4QUbO4D_KU The Ride of the Valkyries arrangement has a story behind it - apparently DGW wanted an easier version than the Lemare to learn fairly quickly - it was suggested that she use this version - arranged by David Patrick and (sorry - plug alert) still available from Banks music publishers. A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveHarries Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 Here's an interesting clip featuring numerous organs from around Europe but rounding off at Salt Lake City, USA. It isn't clear if the organ music being played (what is that piece?) is being played on one of the instruments shown. The clip is at The organ of St. Anna, Warsaw (shown with its red case in the above clip) looks splendid. The case is mid-to-late 1600s: pity the organ isn't as old as it was rebuilt in 1992. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiratutti Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 Hello, (what is that piece?) the piece is Henri Mulet's Carillon-Sortie in D major. Cheers tiratutti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveHarries Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 Thanks, tiratutti. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveHarries Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 Two more clips. Firstly, the famous 1610 organ in Fredriksborg Slot, Denmark played by Carol Williams. Secondly, a Spanish organ with its original blowing mechanism: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qccBF1beTmY Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJJ Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Firstly, the famous 1610 organ in Fredriksborg Slot, Denmark played by Carol Williams. I and a friend got locked in there once - also - visible one the video - the 4 man. at the other end is quite fun too - you sit behind to play - headphones are provided to hear what the people in the chapel hear. There is also a further organ in the gallery behind that one - in a sort of cupboard! A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre Lauwers Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 A little Video about one of the most significant builders of the 20th century: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mupkRkQSUJM Pierre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre Lauwers Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 Here a somwewhat different BWV 562: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIrawgiUeHk There are some points that deserve discussion, no doubt, but at least this interpret tries to get out of the "Neo" vision of the 20th century. The general Tempo I find to the point. Pierre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcnd5584 Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 Here a somwewhat different BWV 562: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIrawgiUeHk There are some points that deserve discussion, no doubt, but at least this interpret tries to get out of the "Neo" vision of the 20th century. The general Tempo I find to the point. Pierre I liked some aspects of this - with reservations. There was a slight inconsistency (and subsequent lack of neatness) in the execution of the ornaments. Although I liked the sound of the registration used in the middle section, I would not change stops when playing this piece. I felt that the rather heavier registration used towards the end was detrimental to the performance. The only other point was that I felt that it was a little too slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazuin Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 I have come across this organist personally - a Feike Asma disciple with a very heavy touch. His father, as Pierre doubtless knows, is a respected organ historian, author of the definitive text about the organ builders Witte. Bazuin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre Lauwers Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 Indeed, Bazuin, And this work deserves a little add here, I think: http://www.deslegte.com/node/138253 I partially agree with Pcnd's remarks. The tempo may appear sluggish at times, but I like its "average speed", though. The final crescendo could be dispensed with. But I would like to hear that on a period thuringian organ. Pierre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinaL Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 Behold, The most pleasant sounding instrument that has been built. It astounds professionals as to how any organbuilder could create such wonderful art Karg Elert's Marche Triomphale will be demonstrated by Diane Bish http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbGjBt3X4qk...feature=related Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinaL Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 And for those who have not yet experienced Feike Asma's eye-popping performance of Widor's Toccata: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vox Humana Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 Behold, The most pleasant sounding instrument that has been built.It astounds professionals as to how any organbuilder could create such wonderful art Karg Elert's Marche Triomphale will be demonstrated by Diane Bish http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbGjBt3X4qk...feature=related What on earth is wrong with the sound here? I'm sure this must be a very fine organ, but the sound quality of the recording is just vile. Is it a transfer from a worn and stretched cassette tape? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinaL Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 What on earth is wrong with the sound here? I'm sure this must be a very fine organ, but the sound quality of the recording is just vile. Is it a transfer from a worn and stretched cassette tape? Nope, the poster of the video was there while Diane was playing and he said the organ sounded even worse in person! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
En Chamade Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 And for those who have not yet experienced Feike Asma's eye-popping performance of Widor's Toccata: This just sounds amateur. Too many wrong notes and inconsistencies in tempo. EC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinaL Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 This just sounds amateur. Too many wrong notes and inconsistencies in tempo. EC And youre being nice. Its much worse than that. AND ITS A TRIBUTE VIDEO!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vox Humana Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 Nope, the poster of the video was there while Diane was playing and he said the organ sounded even worse in person! No, the recording's crap; you can even hear this in her spoken introduction. I wouldn't judge the organ from this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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