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Echo your opinions on this subject completely. I think that trying to educate classic FM listeners into the exciting world of organ music would only result in even more overkilling of 565, Widor V, et.al. " Radio 3 Breakfast Music " doesn`t fare much better either ( IMHO only of course ) Who in their right mind at Aunty Beeb would ever select say, the Canonic Variations as an easy start to the day? The organ per se and the music that goes with it will always be ( IMHO only again ) viewed in Marmite terms. Try sexing it up and you will still have problems.

Yes, No. 3 in A. An excellent musical intro to an excellent series despite its shortcomings and omissions which Clarke himself was prepared to admit to in the preface to his book of the same title.

The spec` can be found on the H & H site; but it does involve a little bit of ferreting around to get at. The " A _ Z " page of organs on H & H`s site shows the page to be unavailable but if you get their help page up you just type " winchester " in and hey presto it comes up!

Just read a very illuminating article in " The Guardian " today ( Sat ) re` the organ which I recommend to those forum members who are of an open mindset re` the direction in which the organ should be going if it is going to survive. Essentially It describes David Pipes ( a name known to one or two here?? ) collaboration with a couple of heavy rock bands and a classically trained female vocalist who have gained more than a modicum of success with their performance in Huddersfield Town Hall and a redundant church. Great interest is being shown in these people to perform in other churchs` including that located in my native city of Bristol, namely St. Mary Redcliffe. Well worth perusing , I think this will generate more interest in the organ than the somewhat inane witterings of a Certain Other Person . This could, hopefully, be the progenitor of the long awaited renaissance of the organ in the 21st cy instead of its languishing in the dust of the 19th.

Hear ! Hear! And I hope there are more to follow in her illustriuous footsteps too although I well suspect that there are still those dust covered fossils who will view things in their own stilted/ misogonystic/myopic manner. There is hope yet that the organ may yet be able escape from its centuries of being shackled ,in the main, to ecclesiastical structures as a mere hymn accompanying machine ,` into its rightful position - The Concert Hall.

Any chance of you possibly elaborating on your last sentence, please? Thank You.

Certainly not by me! :))

I am fully tolerant to listen to anything................apart from that wretched " Silent Night ". Makes me want to turn in my grave!

Agree 100/00. But so long as we have this wonderful institution we will just have to clench ourselves and bite the bullet.

Not much worth commenting on really; so far have only listened to the radio service from KCC. Usual high standard. Nice to hear new pieces, especially from JW. Good to take the broom to the accumulated cobwebs and dead leaves on these occasions. Organ sounds pretty good. Good work from H&H in sparking the Old Girl up a bit. Re` comments on the KJ version; yes, it is good to hear readings recited in this format ; possesses a certain quaint and anachronistic charm all of its own. However I must comment on the First Reading. The Little Darling not only enunciated his vowels ( or should it be " viols " ( think about it ) but he completely masticated and mangled them to the n`th degree , but only IMHO of course. Still have the anticipated pleasure of watching the TV version. That, I always think is worth its weight in the selection of thought provoking readings. Would be interested in knowing about the criteria employed in their selection. Finally I was amused by a piece I had not heard before which was played as the final piece in the Afternoon Concert on B3 prior to evensong from Lancing College, namely "Mrs. Beatons Christmas Pudding," directed by Stephen Cleobury. Quite delightful in its own way. Anyway, here`s raising a scotch , or three, to the next twelve months to all forum members. Different year..............same old..............

Just love the pun on " played a key role "! :))

In MHO only, I am unable to fully appreciate the tremendous fuss which seems to be ongoing with re` to the Gloucester organ. This noble instrument has been subjected to numerous tweakings/ reworkings/ re buildings over the decades/centuries - call it what you will it ended up being a bit of a right old melange in actuality. RD`s scheme seemed fine to me ( probably only me! ) and I would be cautious in calling HN&B`s work into question. True, they embraced that thing that went by the title of " The Organ Reform Movement " and I think many people were upset by the changes involved. To my worn out acoustic nerve the instrument sounded just fine and I feel sure that the updated model will too. My main concern would be a decision to fit it out with one of those sets of what I can only describe at best as " Ragmans Bugles " i.e. Trompette Militaires. Having just said that however I have to admit to being impressed with the use of such a stop on Liverpool Anglican with regard to last Saturdays recital. I T used it to great effect, in conjunction with all the artillery, in his rendering of " Fanfare For The Common Man ". Quite shattering, especially the discords on the final page. I don`t feel that anything is lost in not reinstating the 32`. Presume that some individuals may be still in a xenophobic apopleptic fury over the stop nomenclature that will probably be kept , but never mind. Hope I have not disturbed the dust covering some of the " old pipes " on this site. The views expressed are completely my own and do not necessarily reflect currently held opinions. Taxi!

Interesting thread provoking some good positive comments. I would certainly claim to be a bit of a " sleeping member" with regards to any input, but as with my regards to life generally I am not alone in preferring to be " off stage / in the shadow " and leave those who are more more qualified, and ebullient even in making their contributions. I am glad to read from one member that there is a greater sense of " democracy " operating within the forum than was the case in former days. I was called out as being a troll very early on for daring to mention the " D " word , and " CC " ( not Cavaille- Coll !! ) fortunately those days and members are now just history I hope.

I am quite sure that this document is very informative but will be a bit demanding on the ancient eyesight! My only comment to make on " The Organ In South Africa " would be with regard to the inglorious remains of the instrument in Jo`burgh City Hall. Perhaps it has been replaced , or just collapsed completely now; maybe someone can inform me/us further ?